So much hype surrounding Nathan/Noodlers.. I guess I'll have to just try some out and see for myself.
So much hype surrounding Nathan/Noodlers.. I guess I'll have to just try some out and see for myself.
Cogito, ergo sum
-- René Descartes 1637
TSherbs (September 26th, 2020)
He's a veritable hype machine in wrapped in Colonial-era affectations. Get some samples so you don't get bonked on an entire bottle. Most of them I've tossed or given away, but I still regularly use Black Swans in Australian Roses, and have for about 10 years, including surviving a couple of years where he changed the formula and ended up with a dreadful ink.
"When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick;
and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."
~ Benjamin Franklin
LeFreak (October 4th, 2020), Ole Juul (September 26th, 2020), SlowMovingTarget (October 4th, 2020), welch (March 10th, 2021)
Jon Szanto (September 26th, 2020), SlowMovingTarget (September 26th, 2020)
"When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick;
and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."
~ Benjamin Franklin
TSherbs (September 26th, 2020)
I love Nathan for his unapologetic quirkiness and the fact that his inks are often branded to appeal to sentimental history nerds like myself. I own bottles of Black, Bernanke blue, Blue, Air Corps Blue Black, Black Swan in Australian Roses, Habanero, and just recently purchased Proctor's Ledge. I may be forgetting one or two.
I am disappointed in Proctor's Ledge. I thought I was getting a very deep brown that would be underrated but interesting. Out of a pen it just looks very black, and only gets interesting when you dump lots of ink on a page and smear it around. Maybe its more geared towards artists. I rarely use Bernanke blue, but it comes in handy sometimes. At least one or two of the other colors are about constantly in the rotation.
digitalsedition (October 3rd, 2020), SlowMovingTarget (October 4th, 2020)
Seven of my twelve bottles of ink are from Noodler's Ink. I really like 54th Massachusetts. I've dedicated a Pilot Metropolitan to it. I guess that's the problem, many of the inks I've tried from Noodler's Ink are great, but they want their own pen. (I'm looking at you Bay State Blue). Manjiro Nakahama Whaleman's Sepia works in the Charlie pen that came with it, but man, is it a thick ink. Roller Eel (which is lubricated Heart of Darkness) is extremely wet; it'll pull the same kind of spread as 54th Massachusetts.
Dark Matter, great middle of the road black ink. Tiananmen, a wonderful red that makes me want to go back to it. Purple Heart, the purple from the medal. Haven't tried Walnut yet. It's waiting in the cabinet.
I like 'em. But having said that... My current day-in day-out default ink is currently Pilot Blue-Black. It just works, in everything. That said, I'll be writing my checks with one of Nathan's bulletproof inks. (One day... maybe Salix or ESSRI).
"The world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here..." -- Abraham Lincoln, 1863
[QUOTE=Scrawler;303249]Wonderpens is out. Stylo yes.
https://www.stylo.ca/en/afficher-produit/13254.html
Scrawler (October 5th, 2020)
Unapologetic quirkiness is good. The history reference is OK. But the shallowness is tedious.
I like Nathan's inks, but would never use some of them. I appreciate the variety. A little experimentation and experience and I'm starting to dance with the requirements of some of them.
The first Noodler's ink I bought was 54th Mass. It sat for about three years while I wasn't using fountain pens, and when I resumed, the color had changed - it was a pale blue! It took a week before I figured out that this is an ink that separates and you have to give it a good shake. I can see why somebody doesn't like that. Certainly it would be better if there was a note on the bottle to that effect. It's still a favorite though.
I've fallen in love with Whaleman's Sepia. I like the quirky color and the saturation, and especially how wet it writes. It surprises me when I see people describing it as dry. I guess they're using the wrong pen. I bought a Noodler's Boston Safety Chestnut and a bottle of Whaleman's at the same time - having decided that was going to be the winning combination. I was right.
SlowMovingTarget (October 8th, 2020), Yazeh (October 5th, 2020)
Ouch. Was this meant as an example of the "prejudice" in the OP? "Shallowness" seems an unwarranted criticism of a person that we do not really know. Are you actually suggesting that his opinions are not the result of thoughtful inquiry? And how would you know this?Originally Posted by Ole Juul
Last edited by TSherbs; October 5th, 2020 at 06:32 PM.
Ole Juul (October 5th, 2020)
[QUOTE=TSherbs;303320]I read his comment as directed at Tardiff, not the OP...Originally Posted by Ole
Unapologetic quirkiness is good. The history reference is OK. But the shallowness is tedious. :)...[/QUOTE
Vintage. Cursive italic. Iron gall.
Ole Juul (October 5th, 2020)
[QUOTE=TSherbs;303320]Ouch is right! I hope you didn't think I would actually do that. My apologies!Originally Posted by Ole
Unapologetic quirkiness is good. The history reference is OK. But the shallowness is tedious. :)...[/QUOTE
I was focused on the inks and mistakenly didn't include the quote that the OP was responding to. I should have quoted the whole thing. The relevant part (to my comment) of what the OP was responding to was:
Quote Originally Posted by Tleek
I find Nathan's historical/political commentary to be shallow.I love Nathan for his unapologetic quirkiness and the fact that his inks are often branded to appeal to sentimental history nerds like myself. ...
My apologies to @SlowMovingTarget
Last edited by Ole Juul; October 5th, 2020 at 06:22 PM.
LeFreak (October 6th, 2020), SlowMovingTarget (October 8th, 2020), welch (March 10th, 2021)
I knew that it was about Tardif. Thus my question. I don't consider that man's opinions "shallow" at all. Frankly, it seems only "prejudiced" to say so. And thus the OP was correct that there is some "prejudice" against the man. It's one thing to disagree with an opinion. It's another thing to call the thinking "shallow" when, after all, we are just talking about internet musings.
I'm not sure if you're just playing with me now. I hope not. You will notice that I'm the one defending Noodler's ink and Tardif's expression in this thread and others. I think well of him. You will also notice, I hope, that I didn't refer to either Tardif's thinking nor opinions as shallow. You're the one that said that.
Perhaps you don't like that word. I could have used another one perhaps. I'm sure others have similar thoughts, and perhaps a better word, to describe anti-communist "comedy" labels, and the latest, anti-fascist inks. I like that Tardif expresses himself in his labels, but I find some of them less than well considered. You can call it what you like. I'll defend his right to do that, and I'll defend my own right to have an opinion on it. In the meanwhile, I'm still buying and using his inks.
SlowMovingTarget (October 8th, 2020)
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welch (March 10th, 2021)
That's why they are called "Zombie" threads. They keep resurrecting every few years and never seem to die.
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