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    Default Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    This is an open question.

    There are many who wish there was one.

    There are also many able to contribute detailed information for us all to share.

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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    somebody has to create it. why haven't you?

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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    Go for it

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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    Some of the best Parker pen caps ever produced.
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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    Guess this post of mine has fallen flat on its face, which is a shame.

    Waited 3 weeks for a reply from at least one of the informed.

    112 views

    I think some may have misunderstood my question.

    It is about lost Parker pen information and saving it for others.
    If it is not done it is lost for ever.

    No one person can do it alone.


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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    The photos may not be as swanky, but is there an awful lot lacking in Tony Fischier's Parker 61 page?
    "When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick;
    and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."

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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    Jon Szanto

    A great many thanks for your words of wisdom.

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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    There's a lot of good stuff in the Penography, but it's not intended to be exhaustive. I like the 61 (and the 65, so I would propose a Parker 6X site!) but I know only the most common variations. Why don't we start a Parker 6X thread and put what we know? If we do it here, it's much easier, as the infrastructure exists already. Let's start by posting links like the one Jon Szanto posted.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzMYbGondlo how to clean the capillary filler
    http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/in...-arrow-repair/ Arrow repair

    http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref/profiles/61.htm Some history including prototype

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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    Quote Originally Posted by amk View Post
    ...Let's start by posting links like the one Jon Szanto posted....
    I'm not a Parker historian, but I'm up for anything if we can blame Jon.

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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    A great many thanks.

    It would appear that we have a discussion on this subject.

    Would like to hear from others please. ( that is a BIG please )

    nb : Smiling alot at FredRydr comments
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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    The pen Richard shows is not a prototype.

    There is considerable amount of collector lore that is inaccurate regarding the first version of the 61, the 71, the pen we call a 61, and how they are related.


    Find a copy of the August 2016 issue of Pen World for addional information.

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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    It would appear that one of the elite Parker collectors has arrived at this post.

    A USA West Coast collector / historian


    Farmboy.

    Thank You.
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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    Basket weave white and yellow gold. Tiffany?

    Quite nice.

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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    Farmboy

    Sir,

    Interesting comment about my last photograph.

    My information is these Parker 61 were made by two of the premier jewellers of the time – Asprey’s, London & Boucheron, Paris

    The numbers were 10 to possibly 15, you had to be seriously rich to buy one at the time.

    Without a doubt Tiffany at the time made them for the USA market.
    There is no record of this.
    Perhaps someone can enlighten me.


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    The dates for the start of Newhaven production of P61 on the net are not quiet right.

    Have NOS Boxed P61 pens that are dated earlier than 1964.
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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    Some questions for people with more knowledge about the P61:

    - When did production of the 61 begin in Newhaven?

    - How did Parker advertise and market the P61 after they began making the P75?

    o Did the P61 become more the UK pen?

    o I've owned a half-dozen, or more, cartridge/converter P61's. All of them were made in England. Were the c/c 61's made and marketed in the US?

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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    Welch,

    Many thanks for posting your very good questions.

    Forgive me, but this post is not a Q&A / test of knowledge of Parker 61’s.


    I was hoping to encounter at least one other collector of these pens who is an expert on Arrow Park production of these Parker 61’s – someone who has detailed knowledge from past collecting and once had ex staff contacts made. ( have already made a connection with one such member who has outstanding knowledge of early production prototypes )

    I have the Newhaven production knowledge with all the photography to create something very special.


    The object was to collectively create a website.
    Unfortunely it is, very frankly, failing – 6 weeks later and 275 views by members here ( visitors views are not counted. )
    Perhaps that is why one was never created.
    Just wanted an answer to the question, which I now believe I have.

    Thank You.



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    For Jon Szanto

    A better quote from another American, possibly

    Theodore Roosevelt

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    It is not the critic who counts
    Not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.
    The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood
    Who strives valiantly, who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming
    But who does actually strive to do the deeds, who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause
    Who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly
    So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    I think I will put a turquoise 61 on my bucket list.

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    Default Re: Why is there not a Parker 61.com ?

    The most obvious reason there isn't a Parker61.com is that there isn't enough reason for one to exist. The "enough reason" for the parker51.com and parker75.com Web sites is that Ernesto Soler and L. T. Wong created them. They've asked for and received lots of help, but the reason why those sites exist and parker61.com doesn't exist is that no one person who could create such a Web site has done it.

    Other aspects of human history are much like that. What's done got done because somebody did it. Everything else is a remainder of sorts.

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