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    At the pen show over the weekend I heard someone refer to the new venture as "Faux-mas".
    oh no!
    Of course, you could rightly go South of the border and just declare "no mas".
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    At the pen show over the weekend I heard someone refer to the new venture as "Faux-mas".
    oh no!
    Of course, you could rightly go South of the border and just declare "no mas".
    I'd just hand it to some dude: here's your Bromas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    At the pen show over the weekend I heard someone refer to the new venture as "Faux-mas".
    December 25th?

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    Default Re: Omas revival?

    What was the filling system on the "OMAS" pens at the CA Pen Show? Piston, or the "pneumatic" ASC type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulfcoast View Post
    What was the filling system on the "OMAS" pens at the CA Pen Show? Piston, or the "pneumatic" ASC type?
    From another attendee at the show (I didn't do a dedicated examination:

    I just looked at three of them in a row and each had a QC issue. First one the barrel screwed off. Second one the piston (which Manu confirmed is a Schmidt unit) had an issue - it was rough and making a clicking noise (and no it’s not a ratcheting type). They were going to swap the nib and found it was misaligned. Manu told me to go take it to someone else to get it fixed. Needless to say I passed on the deal.
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    You can see it’s a sham from the promotional video: the glued construction of the cap and piston unit is nothing like the true Ogiva. I’m surprised they included that footage.
    It’s all wrong as a design—the flared section is so wrong and badly executed, the piston ring is too thick, the cap is too fat (more like a modern Aurora 88)…I don’t know how this happens except to think that the people involved had no great appreciation for the long history of exceptional design the brand stood for. Living up to and reviving that ethos would be key to any successful relaunch. What other company (No, not Montblanc!) subtitled their logo with “symbol of distinction” inside their boxes back in the ‘30s?
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    I would never buy one. Omas is dead, full stop. Money making exercise for silly buyers. Same as for Delta. Resurrecting a brand to sell, poorly manufactured, luxury items. Want an Omas or Delta? Buy vintage and live happy!

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    Default Re: Omas revival?

    Some celluloid pens of older Omas pens have been corrupted and destroyed. Are the new pens made with new materials?

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    Default Re: Omas revival?

    Does this new Omas have a website?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmboy View Post
    Does this new Omas have a website?
    https://omasofficial.com

    The typos and writing style don't inspire confidence.

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    I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this issue Spanish dictionary as I have strong opinions on this issue and I would like to learn more information about it. Could you add some details to the post you made on your blog? It will truly be to our collective advantage. lol beans

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    I find this so confusing. Why would you buy a new OMAS pen over an ASC when ASC makes a pen that actually looks like a Paragon, Ogiva, 360, etc.? Is the quality the same as Pen Family?

    Is this new OMAS brand using OMAS' nib tooling to make new nibs? Did Scribo not get that equipment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyless Works View Post
    Is the quality the same as Pen Family?
    It is hard to read that and keep a straight face! One would hope, truly hope, that the quality would be much higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keyless Works View Post
    Is the quality the same as Pen Family?
    It is hard to read that and keep a straight face! One would hope, truly hope, that the quality would be much higher.
    Definitely an oxymoron!!

    I'm wondering if @Keyless Works's account was hijacked and this post has been made by someone else?
    @Keyless Works is a longstanding, very experienced member who knows vintage celluloid pens well. For sure he has got to be knowledgeable about all the Pen Family issues, etc. which have been discussed here and elsewhere.
    And, even if not, all the information about the relationship between "new" Omas and the Pen Family is found right within the contents of this thread!

    My bet is it is a hacked account; hopefully there is a FPG member who knows him and can give him a head's up.

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    The new pens sold under the OMAS brand are made by the founder of Narwhal. I wonder if they share any parts. At least the Ogiva looks like it is somewhat similar to the original shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fountainpenkid View Post
    The new pens sold under the OMAS brand are made by the founder of Narwhal. I wonder if they share any parts. At least the Ogiva looks like it is somewhat similar to the original shape.
    He is working in close collaboration with the founder of The Pen Family.
    Rest assured it is a shared business venture.

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    Default Re: Omas revival?

    I would never buy one of the new brand Omas ( im downsizing and have 5 original left with only 2 of those being fountain pens) as well an original Oldwin, but I do think that there is a certain tendency to 'pile on' anything from the Pen Family.
    I understand that their business model is a little irritating (swooping in on revered brands and creating new versions that sometimes have little to do with the spirit of the original) but I do own one of the cheapie ASC Studio pens and it is perfectly fine.

    I'm in line with all of the above comments. Just trying to interject a little balance.
    BTW why has no one asked why the new Omas are not made in Italy? Where are they made?

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    Default Re: Omas revival?

    This is so much fun to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougc View Post
    I would never buy one of the new brand Omas ( im downsizing and have 5 original left with only 2 of those being fountain pens) as well an original Oldwin, but I do think that there is a certain tendency to 'pile on' anything from the Pen Family.
    I understand that their business model is a little irritating (swooping in on revered brands and creating new versions that sometimes have little to do with the spirit of the original) but I do own one of the cheapie ASC Studio pens and it is perfectly fine.

    I'm in line with all of the above comments. Just trying to interject a little balance.
    BTW why has no one asked why the new Omas are not made in Italy? Where are they made?

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    They are made in Naples according to this video.

    In that video it shows a guy wearing a Gioia branded work shirt. Are they somehow related to Gioia? I do not believe that Gioia is part of Pen Family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmboy View Post
    This is so much fun to watch.
    Dude, you don't watch text, you read it. Until someone posts a video...

    Oh shit. Nevermind.









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