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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Quote Originally Posted by eachan View Post
    . Yazeh, Unik spelled that way is rare. I haven't seen one before. What a great pen!
    I'm starting to question the spelling. It's actually Unic. My bad

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eachan View Post
    . Yazeh, Unik spelled that way is rare. I haven't seen one before. What a great pen!
    I'm starting to question the spelling. It's actually Unic. My bad
    And I thought it was Eunuch. Does it flex?

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

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    . Yazeh, Unik spelled that way is rare. I haven't seen one before. What a great pen!
    I'm starting to question the spelling. It's actually Unic. My bad
    Yep, I was about to suggest the UNIC spelling

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    I thought it was obvious in the sample text... I would say from a fine to stub 1.1...

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
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    . Yazeh, Unik spelled that way is rare. I haven't seen one before. What a great pen!
    I'm starting to question the spelling. It's actually Unic. My bad
    And I thought it was Eunuch. Does it flex?
    It was spelled UNIX, but some folks at some labs in New Jersey didn't like it.
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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Since it's not yet on the list, TOZ Penkala.

    Penkala, the inventor, is very well known throughout the region, as he was the inventor of many things, some of which include the first solid ink fountain pen and "automatic" pencil. His name is in fact so well known here, that we simply call fountain pens "penkala".

    The company TOZ Penkala from 1907 still exists. You can see their catalogue here:

    http://www.toz-penkala.hr/proizvodi-garniture

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    There's also vivapen from Slovenia - they're actually the largest ink cartridge producer in the world. They make also bottled ink for several large and well known brands, as well as their own pens. On our first Pelikan meetup in Slovenia, they showered us with free ink and fountain pens.

    Which turned out kind of odd, as only 4 of us gathered and we were left with litres of ink and dozens of fountain pens

    https://www.vivapen.com/index.html#section_4

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Quote Originally Posted by adhoc View Post
    There's also vivapen from Slovenia - they're actually the largest ink cartridge producer in the world. They make also bottled ink for several large and well known brands....
    Sheaffer, by any chance?

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Yup.

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Quote Originally Posted by penwash View Post

    Will that's such a beautiful pen. And that clip really becomes it. It's a lever filler I presume?
    The nib looks like mine. Is it wet noodle with extra flex?

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    I’m such a sucker for red and black mottled vintage hard rubber that is matched with gold accoutrement.

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    I’m such a sucker for red and black mottled vintage hard rubber that is matched with gold accoutrement.
    What is the difference between the black mottled vintage hard rubber and the BHCR? To the touch they feel quite different.

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    I’m such a sucker for red and black mottled vintage hard rubber that is matched with gold accoutrement.
    What is the difference between the black mottled vintage hard rubber and the BHCR? To the touch they feel quite different.
    The black hard rubber BHCR pens are, of course, chased, while most red and black hard rubber pens are not chased, leaving the surface smooth. In the dark, I doubt you could tell by feel alone an all-black smooth hard rubber pen from a red and black smooth hard rubber pen.

    A quick snapshot. From left to right (with lingo): black hard rubber (BHR) smooth; mottled red and black hard rubber (MHR) smooth; black chased hard rubber (BCHR) chased:

    IMG_3745.jpg

    Keep in mind that chasing isn't for grip (though it may benefit), but enhances the appearance of a boring black rod. The mix of red and black hard rubber creates an interesting appearance without the need for chasing. For fun, look for the various patterns created by the old manufacturers, as well as the names collectors have since coined for them: mottled, woodgrain, ripple, rosewood and others.
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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
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    I’m such a sucker for red and black mottled vintage hard rubber that is matched with gold accoutrement.
    What is the difference between the black mottled vintage hard rubber and the BHCR? To the touch they feel quite different.
    The black hard rubber BHCR pens are, of course, chased, while most red and black hard rubber pens are not chased, leaving the surface smooth. In the dark, I doubt you could tell by feel alone an all-black smooth hard rubber pen from a red and black smooth hard rubber pen.
    THanks Fred, I'll do a blindfold test later

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
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    Will that's such a beautiful pen. And that clip really becomes it. It's a lever filler I presume?
    The nib looks like mine. Is it wet noodle with extra flex?
    Indeed, it's a lever filler.
    The nib can produce some line variations, just a tad more than a semiflex. It's not a "wet-noodle".
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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Thanks so much for the photo Fred. Now I get it. My Conway Steward 330 is a BHR, which is quite smooth to the touch, compared to MHR.

    Here is the flexing capabilities in a video I did for the Bible Ink review. (It's a dry Iron gall ink)


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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
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    . Yazeh, Unik spelled that way is rare. I haven't seen one before. What a great pen!
    I'm starting to question the spelling. It's actually Unic. My bad
    And I thought it was Eunuch. Does it flex?
    I think that on a Eunuch, the part that flexes has been removed. They are not even known for flexing their biceps, much.

    I have a little Unic metal overlay with a hooded nib... Keeps things out of harms way, I guess.

    Bob

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Seattleite View Post
    I think that on a Eunuch, the part that flexes has been removed....
    Depends which culture.

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    Ok, this is really sick: I just purchased a set: fp, pencil, and... one other object TBD. I did so because it specifically has the name "Pen Company Brand". As generic as it could ever be. Photos when it gets here.
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    and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."

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    Default Re: What is the most obscure FP brand that you can think of?

    While we're waiting for Jon's latest find, we'll visit this nice BCHR made by:

    T.H PAYNE Co. from Chattanooga, TN, USA.

    I would be very impressed if you have a pen from this company, or can tell me more info about them.



    And as you can see in the photo, the *chasing* (patterns engraved on the barrel and cap) is still clearly visible and complete. Also amazingly, all the trims (clip, cap band, lever) are still snug and show no signs of major wear. Either the owner of this pen took care of it, or this pen was never used much, which probably partly caused by the nib, which is so messed up.

    Suffice to say that I spent quite some time to get it to write again, in a way that I like.
    But the deed is done, and I'm happy enough to sketch this with the pen.

    Interestingly, a letter G in a circle adorned both the top of the clip and the end of the lever. Wonder why? G. Payne is the founder perhaps?
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