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    Default Retro Toledo

    The original Toledo design is a favorite, and Pelikan has since reproduced it in an exact replica, and also an M900 and an M700. Here is the Toledo in the M700 size with gold finish, which I selected because it accepts any of my many nib units from my M101N, M2xx and M4xx pens (and others I'm sure). Its original Toledo nib is a B, reground to cursive italic by Richard Binder. My understanding is every Toledo binde is hand-engraved and therefore unique. It's a great Pelikan if you happen to find one!

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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    My favourites and i love the design. Vera

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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    Easily my favorite overlay pen from Pelikan. I really enjoy my M900. :-)

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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    The Toledo models are just cool. I think these are cooler than their Maki-e pens.
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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    I just recently ordered from Cult Pens the M700, taking advantage of their 10% discount and free Pelikan single pen case. Can't wait...

    UPDATE: Just received 8-31-18...

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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    I was searching for a photo of the original, and stumbled on Joshua Danley's The Pelikan's Perch Toledo page:

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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    I found two of Rick Propas's photographs of two original 1931 T111 pens (two on the left), an M700, an M900 and a reproduction T111.





    If you want one if these originals, Rick's a source. My M700 came from him at a pen show, when I wasn't even looking for one!
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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    I found two of Rick Propas's photographs of two original 1931 T111 pens (two on the left), an M700, an M900 and a reproduction T111.





    If you want one if these originals, Rick's a source. My M700 came from him at a pen show, when I wasn't even looking for one!
    Beautiful. I should have bought the reproduction version (T111) when I had the chance. It is out of reach now.

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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    Weird that the larger modern pen is M800 rather M1000 sized, isn't it?

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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    Quote Originally Posted by SIR View Post
    Weird that the larger modern pen is M800 rather M1000 sized, isn't it?
    Given that the M700 is M4xx's standard size, and Pelikan skipped over the larger M6xx to select the even bigger M8xx size for the M900, and considering that the M1000 is massive enough to dissuade pen users from buying them, the M900 is probably about as big as Pelikan wanted to go to ensure enough sales. Perhaps they simply compared sales of the M6xx, M8xx and M1000 pens. This is all speculation, of course, but I don't think Pelikan's decision is weird.

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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    I bought one of the Pelikan M900s, with their solemn assurance that no more would be made. Got the pen, the certificate, the t-shirt, and everything. Then they changed their minds, ruining whatever resale value my M900 might have had. Nevertheless, the pen is beautiful, and I'm glad I bought it.

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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    Just reviving straight to the thread. Interesting to see the new models vs. the old ones. The older ones are a much brighter cold color where the new ones almost look bronze-like. I wonder what changed.

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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    Someone sold a Toledo 18K M nib super cheap on eBay a few years ago. I was the winner of that auction and it sits in my m205 Rings version. It's a great dual tone nib with some line variation but I want to get it ground for more pronounced variation.
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    Default Re: Retro Toledo

    I know a little antique shop where I've bought a lot of my pens, including a couple of Onotos that cost 2 each, and some super cheap Parker 51s. I drop in two or three times a year and the owner knows exactly the kind of thing I'm after, though I always look at his other stock, too - he gets some very interesting objects from time to time.

    To my great surprise, one day, I found him looking a bit miserable. "I've only got one pen in stock," he said in apology, "and it's a bit expensive."

    It was. But I couldn't resist the comic little Pelikan. Or the lovely nib. And I'm very glad that I have it, because another Toledo is unlikely to come my way any time soon.

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