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    Default Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    ** solved — see end of post **

    I bought a vintage Skripsert pen early on and then got some Skrip Black cartridges from Staples nearby.

    I've had the worst experience with this ink. The pen wrote way too wet resulting in feathering on even good quality paper such as Clairefontaine papier velouté. Dry times were in the minutes.

    I have been able to adjust the nib to reduce flow considerably. With very light pressure the pen barely lays down any ink. (Below top: almost no pressure; bottom: my normal writing pressure).



    The feathering is gone but tiny ink pools take over a minute to dry (!)

    I expected Skrip Black to behave way better than what I am seeing.

    Is it possible I got a bad/stale batch of cartridges?

    Has anyone else had this experience?

    ** May 29, 2019 — solved **

    The nib on this pen is extremely difficult to tune for flow but I was finally able to get it working properly with the Skrip Black cartridges. My experience tuning other nibs was a big help.

    I know I've got it tuned right because the ink dries quickly and I don't see feathering, both indicating it isn't flowing too much. At the same time, the nib feels lubricated and the line color isn't too faint indicating it isn't flowing too dry either.

    I'm very happy to finally have this pen working with its native ink!
    Last edited by azkid; May 29th, 2019 at 09:14 PM.

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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    No, I did not have that problem with a couple of those cartridges at all. You could try to get your money back. Talk to the store about it.

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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    Thanks. That's a good thought.

    It might be the pen but cannot presently eliminate that possiblity as I have no other Skrip pens to test with and no converter or syringe to try different ink brands.

    Maybe I will try picking up a cheap modern Sheaffer and/or converter ... Cuz, not enough pens yet. *rolls eyes*

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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    Can you show a picture of your Skripsert?

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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    I tend to not use black inks so have never tried any Sheaffer black.

    Are the cartridges new or old stock? If they look less than full, they could be older, in which case, you could try adding a little water into them using a syringe.

    Were all Skripsert pens C/C pens to start with?
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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    Can you show a picture of your Skripsert?



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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    Thanks. Have you used the pen with other inks, and if so, what was the result? (I think I have a Skripsert, too).

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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    Thanks, SK -- I don't have a converter yet. I will get one later.

    I have only tried Skrip black so far. I'll buy some Skrip blue to try, too.

    I ordered another Sheaffer cartridge pen (different model) to try out as well.
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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    That looks brand-new; great find.

    I guess you flushed the Skripsert first, and checked the tines? Be aware that I HAVE used standard international carts in my Sheaffer pens, and they stay on. If you have a standard international converter, maybe try that (if it fits inside the Skripsert body) with an ink you know works well?

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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes





    Amazing coincidence! Last week I bought a pen just like this one, including box, instructions and two dried up cartridges. I still haven't put the nib in the ultrasound but it looks like it was never used.

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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    It is definitely lightly used, but not unused. When I got it, the feed and nib were gunked up with dried ink but all that cleared up in the ultrasonic cleaner and some flushing.

    I'll try one of my international converters and see how it goes.

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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    My "new" Sheaffer arrived and it is working just fine with the store bought Skrip cartridges.

    That suggests the problem lies with the first pen writing way too wet for whatever reason.

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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    If you have any desert-dry inks, now's their big chance.

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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Black is once again the cure. My syringe arrived and I filled an empty cartridge. Flow is reduced to a usable degree with much faster dry times and no feathering.

    The pen is really nice to write with now. I guess I will keep it around after all.

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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    Being stubborn and obsessive I have since done some additional nib tuning, aligning and smoothing on the pen over the last couple of days. I wanted the option to use Skrip ink cartridges, gosh darnit!

    After some effort I achieved medium-dry flow with the Skrip ink. Yet it still feathered on my Clairefontaine bullet journal paper, 90gsm Vélin Velouté as you can see below.



    I like the size, cost, ruling and layout of the journal. The paper? Not so much. All my pens feel draggy on it, like rolling a ball on carpet, this Sheaffer being the worst of them all. Adding to the misery, the paper is overly absorbent, too; my XF nibs write F or FM. And some inks, like Pilot Black and Quink Black, tend to feather if too much ink is laid down.

    Why they couldn't use the same, spectacular Velouté as found in all my other Clairefontaine notebooks I shall never comprehend.

    But I digress. Where were we? Ah. Feathering. If I tuned the flow of this nib any drier, the pen was intolerable: ink came out light grey and the pen felt even more bogged down than ever.



    I further aligned and polished the nib hoping this would reduce drag and it did. The pen was now tolerable to use with Skrip on this paper.

    Meanwhile it was a true joy to use on all my other notebooks. This firm fine nib, for whatever reason, allows me to write more quickly than with other pens, tidies up my ugly penmanship, and produces some pleasing line variation and flow rates within a small range of natural writing pressures.



    I once again experimented with Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Black. Despite better lubrication, it now came out grey, as expected. One more experiment remained.

    I filled an empty cartridge with Iroshizuku Take-sumi and, as with other dry, unlubricated pens, the the nib became pleasant to use on this accursed notebook.

    I now have a converter on the way.

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    Default Re: Sheaffer Skrip Black woes

    I updated the first post to say that I finally got this Skripsert working with the Skrip Black cartridges. Yay!

    Since the post above I've had a few more nib tuning sessions, tried a few other inks.

    Ultimately I just had to be a bit more persistent and adjust more gradually to get the flow dialed in perfectly for Skrip Black.
    Last edited by azkid; May 29th, 2019 at 09:17 PM.

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