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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    This is intriguing! That's a wide range of results you're all getting. I had a guess based on the grey-brown look, but I'm pretty sure now it isn't what I thought it could be.

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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    Ok, here is my first MI#22 sample.


    Mystery Ink #22 Worm by Ptero Pterodactylus on DeviantArt

    (Montblanc Noblesse 1122, Mystery Ink #22 provided by Scooby921)


    The ink was quite nice to write (line art with the Noblesse).
    I see quite a bit of blue tint on the line art.
    The ink does not play too well with water.
    Iīve prepared (as showed yesterday) several deluted versions for the painting.
    When the ink was applied, it almost immediately is fixed on the paper and you canīt really reactivate it with a wash.
    So smooth gradients are a bit difficult to achieve with this ink.
    Nevertheless it behaves also when applied very generous very well.
    There is no bleeding or feathering observable.

    The ink (water) from yesterday on the porcelain palette (see post from yesterday) evapurated in the meanwhile.
    But the ink did not dried, it got an oily consistency, it looks almost like dry but when you touch it you can see and feel that it got an oily consistency.
    So together with the fact that water canīt held the ink particles in suspension my assumption is that this ink isnīt really water based.
    Itīs based on something else or a combination with something else.

    This makes it a quite unusual ink.

    But still itīs very peasant to write with, it behaves really well, looks nice, my intermediate verdict is: I like this ink

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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    Assuming they find time to write and post, we're still awaiting feedback on MI #22 from Suzy and Sam.

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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    I would appreciate to have several days left until you reveal it (about a week would be nice) to have enough time to test it.

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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    No problem.



    Adding to my review...

    I haven't used my pens in about a week. I went to use the pen last night and the nib was a touch dry. The first stroke was just a few streaks of ink. Thankfully a couple taps of the nib on the paper and it was back to normal flow.

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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    Thanks Scooby


    Mystery Ink #22

    (Montblanc Noblesse 1122, Mystery Ink #22 provided by Scooby921)

    Today Iīve wrote on a cheap quite absorbent paper for 2 reasons.

    I already saw that the dry time on Clairefontaine is really long, so I thought it might be shorter on a much more absorbent paper.
    Yes it seem to be shorter, but the dry time is still quite long.

    Second I wanted to see how it behalves on this cheaper paper.
    And I have to say that I canīt criticise itīs overall performance on this cheaper (but still ok) paper (I have much worse paper here which maybe will be more challenging for the ink later...... )
    So also on this paper no bleeding, no feathering, no show through, it was really good.

    I see also quite a lot of shading, and the used Noblesse does not really stimulate shading as it is a nail nib.
    So for using a nail nib the shown shading is quite respectable.


    Btw. the ink on the porcelain palette did not changed itīs state, itīs still oily and sticky.
    Maybe there is also another possible usecase for this ink.
    If you let it dry on a smooth surface you could use it to capture fingerprints.


    Looking at the oily consistancy and that it does not mix with water well, I still tend to think that this ink is not from a major ink manufacturer.

    My gut feeling still whispers "Noodlers" in my ear as this one man show seem to use a lot of chemicals to achieve special properties, and I saw an oily consistency and the fact that it does not dry forever already on Apache Sunset and Golden Brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azkid View Post
    Great reviews! This has been a fun one for me. I find this ink bewitching. I want it to work better on all my paper.

    I feel this could be GvFC Stone Grey looking through some reviews. The color and range of shades and dry times puts it in the realm of plausibility.

    It actually works just fine on my dot pad bullet journals so I ended up using it for work yesterday. The hard starting is quite frustrating, however.
    GvFC Stone Grey is a regular water based ink so wouldn't have produced the results that Ptero found when water was added to it.
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    I was hoping the ink had been revealed by now. I still have a tiny bit of ink left in the pen. I like to add what the ink is with that pen for future reference. I think my favorite gray ink up until now is Papier Plume-Oyster Grey. (for looks) For a performing gray ink I like Noodler's-Lexington Gray. I did like GvFC-Stone Grey as well, it would take the number 3 spot. I have no idea what this Mystery Ink is, and it is bugging me.

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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    I'm calling it Agent Smith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKay View Post
    I was hoping the ink had been revealed by now. I still have a tiny bit of ink left in the pen. I like to add what the ink is with that pen for future reference. I think my favorite gray ink up until now is Papier Plume-Oyster Grey. (for looks) For a performing gray ink I like Noodler's-Lexington Gray. I did like GvFC-Stone Grey as well, it would take the number 3 spot. I have no idea what this Mystery Ink is, and it is bugging me.
    I can send you the info in a private message if you'd like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby921 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KKay View Post
    I was hoping the ink had been revealed by now. I still have a tiny bit of ink left in the pen. I like to add what the ink is with that pen for future reference. I think my favorite gray ink up until now is Papier Plume-Oyster Grey. (for looks) For a performing gray ink I like Noodler's-Lexington Gray. I did like GvFC-Stone Grey as well, it would take the number 3 spot. I have no idea what this Mystery Ink is, and it is bugging me.
    I can send you the info in a private message if you'd like.
    Me too please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby921 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KKay View Post
    I was hoping the ink had been revealed by now. I still have a tiny bit of ink left in the pen. I like to add what the ink is with that pen for future reference. I think my favorite gray ink up until now is Papier Plume-Oyster Grey. (for looks) For a performing gray ink I like Noodler's-Lexington Gray. I did like GvFC-Stone Grey as well, it would take the number 3 spot. I have no idea what this Mystery Ink is, and it is bugging me.
    I can send you the info in a private message if you'd like.
    I would love that! Thank you.

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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    Why are you so impatient.


    Star Wars - Jawa by Ptero Pterodactylus on DeviantArt

    (Montblanc Noblesse 1122, Mystery Ink #22 provided by Scooby921)


    So here is another sketch with the MI#22.
    Iīve adapted my working and tried to work mainly wet in wet as the ink bonds with the paper immediately when the paper is dry.

    Still I think it behaves really good, the line art, done with the Montblanc Noblesse stays in place also when heavily washed, so even it is not 100% water smear proof I would rate this ink clearly as waterproof.

    Btw. the eyes are Rohrer & Klingner Helianthus.

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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Pterodactylus View Post
    Why are you so impatient.
    I don't think I am being impatient. This thread started on October 30th but I already had a sample of this ink sent to me with a previous sample.
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    Ok, as promised, the test of MI#22 on really FP unfriendly paper.

    Mystery Ink #22 on bad paper (front)

    Mystery Ink #22 on bad paper (back)


    Summary for those which canīt decipher my chicken scratch.

    This is really a FP unfriendly paper most inks show weaknesses on this paper.
    It brings also MI#22 to itīs limits.
    I can see some feathering, on the back we see some show though and also bleed through.
    I think MI#22 benefits from itīs not water based structure and that the ink immediately bonds with the paper.

    I also wrote some comparision lines with other inks.
    On the bottom we see 2 conventional water based ink from big players, J.Herbin Rose Cyclamen and Rohrer & Klingner Alt Goldgrün.
    Both show significant problems on this paper, we see feathering, bleed and show through.

    In between I wrote some lines with ESS Registrars Blue-Black, one of my all time favorite inks.
    As expected this IG ink outperforms all other inks clearly, the typeface is perfect, the edges are razor sharp, we canīt see any feathering, see or show through.
    A perfect result, even Iīve used a very flexible nib (EMS modified FPR nib) which lays down a very generous amount of ink.
    But itīs really hard to beat the ESS ink or even roughly compete with it, as you almost can write on toilet paper with this ink.


    So first place for the ESS ink (as expected), but a respectable second place for the MI#22 ink in this competition.
    I think it is based on a cellulose binding chemical which helps here.
    Last edited by Pterodactylus; December 1st, 2018 at 11:40 AM.

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    Apologies for my delay, I've not been super well recently plus it took me forever to get around to cleaning my pen from the ink that was in there. I used the twsbi go for this which with the previous ink was fine on my 150gsm Seawhite of Brighton sketchbook paper but with Mystery Ink 22 I felt like I was doing battle with my pen to achieve any strokes on the paper at all. I do not think that this is de Atramentis grey because I have that and it behaves a lot smoother and dries a heck if a lot faster. I started sketching the people on the train with me but as I said battling the pen made this less than enjoyable. I thought perhaps if I slowed down and was more deliberate in my pen strokes it might behave better which it did marginally with the second drawing which was from a pintrest reference. I enjoyed the other reviews. I was going to try one with water but don't wait for me before revealing!

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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    Why are you so impatient.
    I got my sample a little over two weeks ago. I write with the ink, and then I like to write the true name of the ink, with my writing sample. Since my ink leaked, I didn't have much to begin with. I also like to add it to my color swabs. I always use that same ink for that writing, otherwise it would be out of place in appearance. I have a very low level of MI #22 left. That is why I would like to finish the writing needed, and clean the pen out.

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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    And MI#22 on Clairefontaine


    Quote Voltaire by Ptero Pterodactylus on DeviantArt

    (Montblanc Noblesse 1122, Mystery Ink #22 provided by Scooby921)


    The major drawback of this ink is it‘s really long dry time.
    Otherwise it really performs well and shade nice.

    Now I will start to think about a guess......

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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    I will say that it is not Noodler's...if that helps your guess .

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    Default Re: Mystery Ink #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby921 View Post
    I will say that it is not Noodler's...if that helps your guess .
    Thx, I already excluded Noodler’s from my list.

    My current search parameters are:

    Search for a Grey designer ink (most likely a small manufacturer)
    One that might be quite new on the market.
    One that has a long dry time.
    One that has quite a good water resistance.

    I spent already quite a long time searching for such an ink, but found none.
    The ones I found either are not water resistant enough or they have a too short dry time (in the reviews I found).

    I also found no hint to an ink which does not mix with water well.

    So maybe: I did not found the right reviews yet, or the reviews I looked at were wrong regarding water resistance and/or dry times, or there are none or very few good reviews of this ink (as it is quite new or not very popular)......

    Private Reserve Flanell and Organics Studio Arsenic are not completely off my list even some of the attributes do not match with MI#22 (but Designer ink batches might vary relatively widely in their attributes).
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