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    Snobbery may be stupid, yes, but a part of it actually involves a level of social action as well.

    While the instant stuff and Yuban may be a person's preferred brew, I can order roasted, whole-bean coffee directly from a roaster that I can talk to whose livelihood is dependent on the coffee. They, in turn, know and can talk directly to the farmer they are getting beans from. The roaster can also often provide (if requested) what they are paying the farmer for their beans. That "snobbery" is also creating jobs (or saving farms) in those regions.

    So, yeah, I spend more on coffee than my father or grandfather would ever consider reasonable, but if its spending a few dollars more for my indulgence and someone getting paid a better price for their labor, I'm all for it.

    That the roasters take more care to make their coffee is just a secondary benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzJon View Post
    Snobbery may be stupid, yes, but a part of it actually involves a level of social action as well.

    While the instant stuff and Yuban may be a person's preferred brew, I can order roasted, whole-bean coffee directly from a roaster that I can talk to whose livelihood is dependent on the coffee. They, in turn, know and can talk directly to the farmer they are getting beans from. The roaster can also often provide (if requested) what they are paying the farmer for their beans. That "snobbery" is also creating jobs (or saving farms) in those regions.

    So, yeah, I spend more on coffee than my father or grandfather would ever consider reasonable, but if its spending a few dollars more for my indulgence and someone getting paid a better price for their labor, I'm all for it.

    That the roasters take more care to make their coffee is just a secondary benefit.
    I was trying to have fun with the "snob" term, even mentioning that I was joking at myself.

    But I appreciate your taking the time to demonstrate how much your virtue exceeds mine. I will remember in the future so as not to misunderstand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NumberSix View Post

    I was trying to have fun with the "snob" term, even mentioning that I was joking at myself.

    But I appreciate your taking the time to demonstrate how much your virtue exceeds mine. I will remember in the future so as not to misunderstand.
    Wasn't directed at you, but I'm glad to see you are also capable of misinterpreting intent.

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    I was trying to have fun with the "snob" term, even mentioning that I was joking at myself.

    But I appreciate your taking the time to demonstrate how much your virtue exceeds mine. I will remember in the future so as not to misunderstand.
    Wasn't directed at you, but I'm glad to see you are also capable of misinterpreting intent.
    You mentioned Yuban and instant coffee, which came from my post. Here's how your comment sounded to me: "It's cute that you (er, people - since it was not aimed at me) like Yuban and instant coffee. But my coffee choice makes the world a better place." You even ended by saying that the quality of the coffee you buy from these sellers is a secondary benefit.

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    I was trying to have fun with the "snob" term, even mentioning that I was joking at myself.

    But I appreciate your taking the time to demonstrate how much your virtue exceeds mine. I will remember in the future so as not to misunderstand.
    Wasn't directed at you, but I'm glad to see you are also capable of misinterpreting intent.
    You mentioned Yuban and instant coffee, which came from my post. Here's how your comment sounded to me: "It's cute that you (er, people - since it was not aimed at me) like Yuban and instant coffee. But my coffee choice makes the world a better place." You even ended by saying that the quality of the coffee you buy from these sellers is a secondary benefit.
    My apologies. You seem rather upset about this, so let me assure you that I was not criticizing you, but the coffee industry as a whole. I could have also said Don Francisco's in place of Yuban, but Yuban was what was on the top of my thoughts.

    I should also clarify: by "secondary benefit" that is to say that the coffee is cared to as a perk, an added bonus, a byproduct, of a roaster caring more about the supply chain. I would probably not buy a coffee on ethics alone. I apologize for that not being clear.

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    AzJon, you're free to buy whatever coffee you want. I, too, vote with my dollars for some matters of conscience, sometimes. I consider it a privilege to have that option.

    "Snobbery" is stupid. We see it from time to time also on threads about Chinese-made fountain pens, ballpoints, and cursive handwriting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    ..."Snobbery" is stupid. We see it from time to time also on threads about Chinese-made fountain pens, ballpoints, and cursive handwriting.
    Uh oh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    ..."Snobbery" is stupid. We see it from time to time also on threads about Chinese-made fountain pens, ballpoints, and cursive handwriting.
    Uh oh.
    Ha!

    I'm just saying. Keepin' it real, here!

    And I am currently quaffing my brew from freshly roasted beans from Papua New Guinea. So, there's that, too....

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    Here's something fun.
    My buddy who lives in the Nashville area came to visit a few weeks back and brought me a bourbon barrel.
    I've got 15 kilos of a nice El Salvador aging in there, we'll pull it out next month and see what happens...


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    Before you roast it? Won't roasting burn off the added flavor? And does this warrant a 6-hour drive for a cup? Or mail order beans!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    The Moka coffee pot is in trouble! "Get one while you can."


    We have one! Well, more than one....we've had some variation of these for ages.
    My other pen is a Montblanc.

    And my other blog is a tumblr!


    Dr. Inkenstein--it was a dark and stormy write!

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    Manoeuver, how do you then get the beans out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    Before you roast it? Won't roasting burn off the added flavor? And does this warrant a 6-hour drive for a cup? Or mail order beans!
    I know, right? We'll be doing a couple tasting events where we'll A/B test the aged vs non-aged beans. A/B sacks o' beans will also be available for shipping when the time comes.

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    Manoeuver, how do you then get the beans out?
    to be determined. I think the initial plan will be to remove the bung, lift the barrel, turn it bung-side down and shake. Wish me luck, that sucker is HEAVY.

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    Your chiropractor does not condone that plan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzJon View Post
    My apologies. You seem rather upset about this, so let me assure you that I was not criticizing you, but the coffee industry as a whole. I could have also said Don Francisco's in place of Yuban, but Yuban was what was on the top of my thoughts.

    I should also clarify: by "secondary benefit" that is to say that the coffee is cared to as a perk, an added bonus, a byproduct, of a roaster caring more about the supply chain. I would probably not buy a coffee on ethics alone. I apologize for that not being clear.
    Okay, I admit I may have over-reacted. Tone is difficult to read on a forum like this, and my detector seems to have been off-the-mark. My apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    The Moka coffee pot is in trouble! "Get one while you can."


    Iím using my Bialetti because the switch on my ancient la Pavoni espresso machine needs to be replaced yet again.

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