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    Default Manu Propria Pens - Kinkumo

    A Pair of "Shibui" Type Ebonite pens with Akakinkumo Urushi finish. Aka = Red, Kin = Gold, Kumo = Clouds or "Golden Clouds in Red Sky Lacquer". Note the very hard polish of the lacquer
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    Default Re: Manu Propria Pens - Kinkumo

    Lovely, as usual. Do you ever install clips?

    If there are any typos in this post, I blame Tapatalk!
    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Manu Propria Pens - Kinkumo

    Thank you Lloyd,
    I personnaly don't like clips on pens and think it would damage the overall design

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    Default Re: Manu Propria Pens - Kinkumo

    Wow, that's lovely. I get the feeling of three-dimensionality as if the golden spots are standing proud - one or two of them even look like little volcanoes with craters in the middle; the surface is really lively and fascinating.

    It is wonderful to see such variety of finish and character that you come up with in your urushi work.

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    Default Re: Manu Propria Pens - Kinkumo

    Quote Originally Posted by Manupropria View Post
    Thank you Lloyd,
    I personnaly don't like clips on pens and think it would damage the overall design
    It is of course your choice as the pen maker.
    But I think the right style of clip could enhance your beautiful pens.
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    Since 2014 I have sold quite a number of opens. Since I have no shop on my website I am in conversation with all my customers but since 2014 I had one singel request for a clip. People who appreciate lacquer pens use and care differently to a pülastic pen. It is carried in pen pouches, not just clipped in the shirt pocket

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    I have 3 urushi Danitrios and used to own a vintage Mitaka urushi pen... all with clips.

    If there are any typos in this post, I blame Tapatalk!
    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Manu Propria Pens - Kinkumo

    Quote Originally Posted by Manupropria View Post
    Since 2014 I have sold quite a number of opens. Since I have no shop on my website I am in conversation with all my customers but since 2014 I had one singel request for a clip. People who appreciate lacquer pens use and care differently to a pülastic pen. It is carried in pen pouches, not just clipped in the shirt pocket
    Martin, I can assure you, that I don't carry my urushi pens in my shirt pocket

    If I may explain, my preference for clip has to do with the styling of a fountain pen. To me, a well-made, well-designed clip completes the "lines" or "profile" of a fountain pen.

    Plus for a handmade pens such as yours, it could be one more design opportunity for the maker to express their artistry. Who knows, maybe only you could come up with a clip made out of ebonite with complimentary urushi finish to the barrel (since it's not meant to be utilitarian, who said it has to be made out of metal?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    I have 3 urushi Danitrios and used to own a vintage Mitaka urushi pen... all with clips.
    And I bet you don't carry them around in a shirt pocket, yes?
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    Default Re: Manu Propria Pens - Kinkumo

    Sometimes, I do. They're meant to be used not kept under glass.

    If there are any typos in this post, I blame Tapatalk!
    M: I came here for a good argument.
    A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
    A: It can be.
    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
    A: No it isn't.
    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
    A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
    A: Yes it is!
    M: No it isn't!

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    Default Re: Manu Propria Pens - Kinkumo

    Here a few pens with clip variations I have made until today

    One of the clips was made from a iron nail, forged and finished with urushi which was burned into the surface with high temperature.

    1Tetsu.jpg2Tetsu2.jpg3Clip.jpg4Simplizitus.jpg5Kiseru.jpg6clip2.jpg

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    Default Re: Manu Propria Pens - Kinkumo

    Martin, I think those clips enhance the look of your pens.
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    Default Re: Manu Propria Pens - Kinkumo

    Thank you Penwash

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    Default Re: Manu Propria Pens - Kinkumo

    Love the pen and i like urushi without clips. I have both types, Danitrio and Platinum Izumo. One day I will have a Manu Propria!!!

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