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    Default Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    I saw this Parker pen listed on ebay, and decided to advise the seller that it wasn't a brand new Sonnet. I wasn't sure what it actually was though. Could it possibly be a Parker pen with some added parts or is it all original Parker? Missing filling system? I would be interested to learn.

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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    At least the seller removed the listing it seems but any images are now gone too so no idea what it was.

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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    Quote Originally Posted by jar View Post
    At least the seller removed the listing it seems but any images are now gone too so no idea what it was.
    I can see the images. Maybe it's because it was listed on ebay.co.uk, and you're on ebay.com?
    I bet it's because it was also listed as for sale within UK only.
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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    Some parts look like a Parker Duofold first generation from 1988, nib, arrow, flat top. But this might be a prototype, a pre-production one?

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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    It looks like a cross between a sonnet and an International.

    It also looks like that brass bit is supposed to go up into the cap and the cap screws off. I bet that its an inner cap liner that was yanked out because the seller assumed it was a slip cap and broke it. There are some scratches that could imply use. Maybe someone frankenpenned together a functional Parker from different pens? Sonnet body with a duofold nib?

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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    Quote Originally Posted by AzJon View Post
    It looks like a cross between a sonnet and an International.

    It also looks like that brass bit is supposed to go up into the cap and the cap screws off. I bet that its an inner cap liner that was yanked out because the seller assumed it was a slip cap and broke it. There are some scratches that could imply use. Maybe someone frankenpenned together a functional Parker from different pens? Sonnet body with a duofold nib?
    That makes sense. That brass bit looked completely wrong for me.
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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    Interesting lower shell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AzJon View Post
    It looks like a cross between a sonnet and an International.

    It also looks like that brass bit is supposed to go up into the cap and the cap screws off. I bet that its an inner cap liner that was yanked out because the seller assumed it was a slip cap and broke it. There are some scratches that could imply use. Maybe someone frankenpenned together a functional Parker from different pens? Sonnet body with a duofold nib?
    That makes sense. That brass bit looked completely wrong for me.
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    Even as a slip cap, that would be a terrible design. I'm not even sure a friction slip cap pen like that has been made in the last century.

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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    The nearest Sonnet lower shell.
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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    I don't think any one of the component parts belonged to a Sonnet.

    That brass piece is definitely part of the cap, and I don't know how the pen originally filled.
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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    I only say Sonnet because of this image:



    The 7th pen down is the closest thing I can see.

    However, the nib would be wrong.

    Honestly looks like it was a cartridge pen. The end of the barrel that is unscrewed looks like it is just there to hold the hardware on, but otherwise doesn't serve a purpose as a blind cap.

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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    The grip on that pen isn't a Sonnet grip. All Sonnets have that gold band around the end of a really smoothly and very slightly flaring grip. The grip on that black pen looks more like it is from a vintage era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    The grip on that pen isn't a Sonnet grip. All Sonnets have that gold band around the end of a really smoothly and very slightly flaring grip. The grip on that black pen looks more like it is from a vintage era.
    Yeah, that's why I think its a frankenpen.

    I've seen some weird combos pop up on eBay in the past.

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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    definitely prototype refresh Duofold c.a 2000
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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    Cowabunga. Looks like something enhanced by the nib.

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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    Quote Originally Posted by fountainpenkid View Post
    definitely prototype refresh Duofold c.a 2000
    I think this is what it turned out to be. Was relisted and sold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pajaro View Post
    Cowabunga. Looks like something enhanced by the nib.
    Definitely.
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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    Some better images of this pen.

    It is a concept pen dated 1985/6 ( most probably Newhaven )

    It has no function ( there is no actual feed mechanism )
    The upper shell ( barrel ) is an acrylic blank, beautifully made

    Interestingly the nib ( real 18k – 750 ) is the same as the 1997 Mark I International, a work of art.
    It was produced and perfected before the actual pen design.


    I would like to seriously thank Chrissy for bringing this pen to the forum's attention ( and mine, of course )
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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    Well, that's just cool.

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    Default Re: Wrongly listed as a Sonnet, but what was it? Does anyone know?

    It looks nice, but if it doesn't work then at least it was never a pen for me.
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