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    Default Re: Leonardo Officina Italiana - Momento Zero

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcoA64 View Post
    Following to my previous post I discovered an interesting feature of this pen.

    So, there is no instruction booklet in the box so, just by chance, I discovered that you can unscrew the end bit of the barrell and you have access to the converter. This means that you can either ink the pen in the classic way, unscrew the barrell, immerse the section in the ink bottle and turn the converter or just remove the end of the barrell and ink it without having to take it apart. Cool. This is also why, and I thought about it, the converter is finished in polished aluminiium
    I agree - I wish they would make this more obvious, as I think it is a selling point. And another way to point out their attention to detail: for instance, one that I have has dark (almost black) ruthenium plated hardware; when you unscrew the blind cap, you notice that both the threaded insert for the cap, as well as the piston knob (and other metal parts on the converter) are also plated in the same material. Everything matches. Very classy.
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    Default Re: Leonardo Officina Italiana - Momento Zero

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcoA64 View Post
    I ordered and received my first, maybe last Leonardo, Momento Zero Regular in Coral Red.
    I bought it directly from Italy as I could not find any of the usual UK sellers I use that stocked it.
    Price was affordable, 112 Pounds. Ordered it on the 15th and arrived yesterday afternoon, very quick with UPS....

    The schock were the Custom duties, 70 Pounds. Never again I'll order from Italy directly.....

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    70 duty on a 112 purchase? That's 😧.

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    Default Re: Leonardo Officina Italiana - Momento Zero

    What on earth did they put in the waybill?
    Did you get charged UK VAT on the Italian Vat included price ie VAT on top of VAT?
    I know they levy charges on the price + postage charged by the seller and a "handling charge" but that seems a lot.

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    Default Re: Leonardo Officina Italiana - Momento Zero

    @topcat666 the waybill indicated 200 euros of goods. No Italian VAT added anywhere, Brexit.
    The shop lady told me that there are issues with UK Customs if you put a value that is less than 150 GBP, so she increased the pen amount in the waybill only to avoid this. The pen was 125 euros without Italian VAT, 112 GBP.
    UPS sent me a notification of duties to pay as a whole, 69,xx in total.
    I do not know who's beating around the bush here, the shop, Customs or UPS. UPS's bill reported duties 50 GBP, service charge 16 GBP. Definetely not goign to buy anymore from Italy.

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    Default Re: Leonardo Officina Italiana - Momento Zero

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcoA64 View Post
    @topcat666 the waybill indicated 200 euros of goods. No Italian VAT added anywhere, Brexit.
    The shop lady told me that there are issues with UK Customs if you put a value that is less than 150 GBP, so she increased the pen amount in the waybill only to avoid this. The pen was 125 euros without Italian VAT, 112 GBP.
    UPS sent me a notification of duties to pay as a whole, 69,xx in total.
    I do not know who's beating around the bush here, the shop, Customs or UPS. UPS's bill reported duties 50 GBP, service charge 16 GBP. Definetely not goign to buy anymore from Italy.
    I must confess I do not understand how US Customs works so it is probably wrong for me to make any comment about another country's customs process & procedures.
    But, I cannot resist....what possible reason could there be for overstating the value of an item in a customs declaration?? How could that possibly be of benefit to the buyer?

    I agree with the others, in all likelihood, there is something very wrong here.

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    Default Re: Leonardo Officina Italiana - Momento Zero

    This is an explanation I got on another forum re why the seller increased the price in the waybill.

    For orders up to GBP 135 including shipping, the dealer has to be registered for VAT with the UK Customs and Excise. There is an annual charge to do this, too high for small businesses. They then have to prepay the VAT ahead of shipping the parcel. So if they have not done this, the parcel will be returned.
    For orders over GBP 135 the dealer is supposed to deduct the local VAT/MWST/TVA and then the customer has to pay the UK VAT to the courier or Royal Mail. The latter then add a service charge which can be anything up to GBP 30 for handling the charges on your behalf

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    Default Re: Leonardo Officina Italiana - Momento Zero

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcoA64 View Post
    This is an explanation I got on another forum re why the seller increased the price in the waybill.

    For orders up to GBP 135 including shipping, the dealer has to be registered for VAT with the UK Customs and Excise. There is an annual charge to do this, too high for small businesses. They then have to prepay the VAT ahead of shipping the parcel. So if they have not done this, the parcel will be returned.
    For orders over GBP 135 the dealer is supposed to deduct the local VAT/MWST/TVA and then the customer has to pay the UK VAT to the courier or Royal Mail. The latter then add a service charge which can be anything up to GBP 30 for handling the charges on your behalf
    Yet if I buy from a smaller seller via ebay or etsy, they will collect the VAT on the seller's behalf...

    The biggest problem seems to be the big couriers, who appear to randomly set their own figures for vat/duty and then add massively inflated handling charges. Makes the royal mail 'actual duty' plus 8 ransom seem positively reasonable...

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    Default Re: Leonardo Officina Italiana - Momento Zero

    As I understand it, if you use FedEx (as an example) the cost is to your door irrespective of whether the last leg uses a local courier (which is usually the case). Yes it is more expensive, but on the other hand you know all the price upfront at the point of purchase.
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