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    Default Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    Several times now, I have been advised that I've received a message from a random ebay seller offering me a lower price on an item that I "have shown an interest in."

    I'm quite a compulsive "watcher" and watch hundreds of ebay items. Obviously I don't buy all of them, well they aren't all pens or inks for a start, but I have received lower price offers on items that I have never contacted a seller about.

    Therefore, ebay not only knows what ebay ID is watching an item, it clearly passes on this information to sellers, who can then choose to send an offer to watching potential ebay buyers. The message usually advises me that the seller has sent the offer to "other buyers as well as me," so I need to "act quickly."

    This is something I wasn't aware of. Did everyone else know that it can happen?
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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    I didn't know but it doesn't surprise me. The technology exists and they will use it. Everyone's at it. I recently dumped Google because of the tracking.
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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching...

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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    hmmmm, good to know

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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    DuckDuckGo. It may be an intensely stupid name but at least they don't report back on your every movement like Google.
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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    DuckDuckGo search engine with Brave as the browser. But also don't log in to eBay until bidding or buying, and don't use payment through eBay and PayPal. Oh, eBay logarithms will fight back, especially with alternative payment.

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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    DuckDuckGo search engine with Brave as the browser. But also don't log in to eBay until bidding or buying, and don't use payment through eBay and PayPal. Oh, eBay logarithms will fight back, especially with alternative payment.
    It may only be me but I would never buy anything through ebay unless I could pay by PayPal.
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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    DuckDuckGo search engine with Brave as the browser. But also don't log in to eBay until bidding or buying, and don't use payment through eBay and PayPal. Oh, eBay logarithms will fight back, especially with alternative payment.
    It may only be me but I would never buy anything through ebay unless I could pay by PayPal.
    I would be the same.
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    The Tor browser also protects your privacy.
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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    I don't think there is any such thing as privacy anymore, if it ever existed.
    Personally, I have not experienced what you describe, but I have had a spam email sent to me recently from an Ebay seller that I have never purchased from simply
    asking me to view products in his store. What disgusts me is that Ebay does not protect their members better from this.

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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    I've received a similar email (through the ebay messages) about a fountain pen I was watching. An offer for the pen that had a great discount, didn't bite the bullet, now I still see the same pen being offered for sale (after 3 months) with the original price.

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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    Do Brave or Tor have anything in common with VPN technology? And how do we know we can trust them to be what they say they are?
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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    Yes.

    eBay prompts sellers who've listed an item that's being watched to send an offer to the watchers.

    And as soon as an item sells and the seller submits feedback, eBay prompts the seller to list some more.

    As the late Dan Fogelberg sang in "Blind to the Truth' in 1990: "Corporate bosses snicker as they watch the profits soar. They don't care what they make next month as long as it is more."
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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlkWhiteFilmPix View Post
    Yes.

    eBay prompts sellers who've listed an item that's being watched to send an offer to the watchers.

    And as soon as an item sells and the seller submits feedback, eBay prompts the seller to list some more.

    As the late Dan Fogelberg sang in "Blind to the Truth' in 1990: "Corporate bosses snicker as they watch the profits soar. They don't care what they make next month as long as it is more."
    For what it's worth: I have been an eBay seller for 19 years and this has never happened to me, either as a buyer or a seller. Not sure what that means, and certainly not naive enough to think I'm not on the radar, just FYI.
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    It has never happened to me as a seller. Only as a buyer.
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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    It has never happened to me as a seller. Only as a buyer.
    If it's any comfort, our friend who has the furniture store down the street from us employs a firm to somehow capture your phone if you walk in the door of his store and then send his ads to sites you frequent. e.g.: when I'm on FPN, his local store ads are featured on the site. Don't know why it hasn't tracked me to FPG.
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    "Expect more apps to slip permission to track you with iBeacon into those terms of service and privacy policies you don't read. Hypothetically, a retailer with its app on your phone could tell iBeacon to turn the app on when you're in or near the store, send information about your being there to a database and then pop up some advertising."

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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    I have not been here on this platform before.

    Read Chrissy's comments with interest.

    For many years I regularly monitor eBay UK, USA & Canada for pens I want but have never experienced what has been mentioned.
    ( am ex UK Yahoo & QXL auctions before eBay bought both of them, now I am showing my age ! )

    I think you will find that there is a vastly bigger problem on the Parker pen section of eBay UK - chinese scammers / hackers using old accounts.
    It started 18 months ago.

    Over the last 3 months they have started selling pens using these old accounts.

    Have alot of the names used - not sure I would wish add them here.
    Can add a current seller ( there are about 20+ at present ) if anyone is interested.
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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    I think it's just an enhancement to what has already been available for some time. As a seller I was given the opportunity to send out offers to people that bid. The system would send out second chance opportunities when an item is resisted. It seems that they have narrowed the target market down to increase sales.
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    Default Re: Is ebay version of "Big Brother" watching?

    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyIvan View Post
    I think it's just an enhancement to what has already been available for some time. As a seller I was given the opportunity to send out offers to people that bid. The system would send out second chance opportunities when an item is resisted. It seems that they have narrowed the target market down to increase sales.
    Sellers have always been able to send out 2nd chance offers to underbidders when the winning bidder fails to follow through. That's actually quite different, as the seller then automatically has the bidders names on his item as it ended.
    What I'm drawing attention to is that, at least, for Buy it Now items, sellers are now being advised by ebay which ebay ID's are actually watching their items; ebayers who haven't bid, or bought from them before, or even sent the seller any ASQ messages. These are completely random ebayers. The sellers can then send out special offers to any or all of them. I've never known ebay send ebay ID information of "watchers" to sellers. This information isn't something that shows up in the seller hub. Only the number of "watchers" is shown.
    Last edited by Chrissy; May 3rd, 2019 at 01:21 AM.
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