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    Can anyone tell me their theory on why Tomoe river is so good? I figure its a special coating and ingredients but I'd love to know more as I'm writing a blog post.
    Please excuse my stupid questions I'm only new

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    "THEORY?!!"

    There is no "theory" about why Tomoe River paper is good...

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    I don't know why it is so good but I do know that I use it almost exclusively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mungmul View Post
    I don't know why it is so good but I do know that I use it almost exclusively.
    Do you know a source here in Korea?

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    I would love to understand a little more about paper manufacturing and what the deal is with Tomoe River and how it can be so thin yet so opaque.

    It must cost more to make fountain pen papers right? Or cheap notebooks wouldn't suck with FP ink as much.

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    I wouldn't be surprised there is some mulberry in it.

    Hanji paper, made in Korea and reputed to be the best paper in the world, is extremely thin, yet highly sturdy and waterproof.

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    Any leads on where to get this in the UK?
    Cult pens don't seem to have any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mungmul View Post
    I don't know why it is so good but I do know that I use it almost exclusively.
    Do you know a source here in Korea?
    I do not. I have been ordering it from websites in the US. The paper has to travel from Japan to the US and then back to Korea! I usually order from www.nanamipaper.com. I have never tried to get it directly from Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fountainpagan View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised there is some mulberry in it.

    Hanji paper, made in Korea and reputed to be the best paper in the world, is extremely thin, yet highly sturdy and waterproof.
    I don't know that hanji would be all that good for fountain pens. In my experience it is rather fibrous but maybe I have not come into contact with the right kind. Next time I am in a hanji store I will ask about something good for fountain pens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIR View Post
    "THEORY?!!"

    There is no "theory" about why Tomoe River paper is good...
    Your response suggests that you know for a fact what it is about the manufacturing process for Tomoe River paper that makes it so good. Please enlighten those of us who aren't so well-informed as you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saki View Post
    Any leads on where to get this in the UK?
    Cult pens don't seem to have any.
    Amazon.co.uk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mungmul View Post
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    I wouldn't be surprised there is some mulberry in it.

    Hanji paper, made in Korea and reputed to be the best paper in the world, is extremely thin, yet highly sturdy and waterproof.
    I don't know that hanji would be all that good for fountain pens. In my experience it is rather fibrous but maybe I have not come into contact with the right kind. Next time I am in a hanji store I will ask about something good for fountain pens.
    There is a smoth and a textured size. Then, the possibility of using a fountain pen with it depends the quality of the paper, and on the sizing given to it. Double sized hanji is difficult to find, and highly expensive.

    Gampi papers are suitable for pen and ink, they have a natural sizing. Have a look at these, they are easier to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saulylee View Post
    why Tomoe river is so good?
    Is it, though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzJon View Post
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    why Tomoe river is so good?
    Is it, though?
    I say yes. What say you?

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    why Tomoe river is so good?
    Is it, though?
    I say yes. What say you?
    Honestly, I used it for a while and overall don't much care for it. The appeal of TR is that is brings out sheen and is very smooth paper. Which is fine, but I find it too smooth. Plus, the same function that allows it to bring out sheen from, well, anything, also means that the ink smears off the page very easily. I have found that even something as simple as holding a letter in your hand to read it leaves smudges on your thumb. Finally, while I can see where thin paper appeals to some (indeed, the vintage almost-like-onion-skin feel is interesting), the show-through is not to my tastes.

    So, I say no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fountainpagan View Post
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    I wouldn't be surprised there is some mulberry in it.

    Hanji paper, made in Korea and reputed to be the best paper in the world, is extremely thin, yet highly sturdy and waterproof.
    I don't know that hanji would be all that good for fountain pens. In my experience it is rather fibrous but maybe I have not come into contact with the right kind. Next time I am in a hanji store I will ask about something good for fountain pens.
    There is a smoth and a textured size. Then, the possibility of using a fountain pen with it depends the quality of the paper, and on the sizing given to it. Double sized hanji is difficult to find, and highly expensive.

    Gampi papers are suitable for pen and ink, they have a natural sizing. Have a look at these, they are easier to find.
    Thank you for the tip. I don't know what "gampi" paper is though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzJon View Post
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    why Tomoe river is so good?
    Is it, though?
    I say yes. What say you?
    Honestly, I used it for a while and overall don't much care for it. The appeal of TR is that is brings out sheen and is very smooth paper. Which is fine, but I find it too smooth. Plus, the same function that allows it to bring out sheen from, well, anything, also means that the ink smears off the page very easily. I have found that even something as simple as holding a letter in your hand to read it leaves smudges on your thumb. Finally, while I can see where thin paper appeals to some (indeed, the vintage almost-like-onion-skin feel is interesting), the show-through is not to my tastes.

    So, I say no.
    I am utterly devoted to Tomoe River but it is true that ink can take a while to dry on it. You need a blotter if you do not have the time to let the ink dry on its own.

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    why Tomoe river is so good?
    Is it, though?
    I say yes. What say you?
    Honestly, I used it for a while and overall don't much care for it. The appeal of TR is that is brings out sheen and is very smooth paper. Which is fine, but I find it too smooth. Plus, the same function that allows it to bring out sheen from, well, anything, also means that the ink smears off the page very easily. I have found that even something as simple as holding a letter in your hand to read it leaves smudges on your thumb. Finally, while I can see where thin paper appeals to some (indeed, the vintage almost-like-onion-skin feel is interesting), the show-through is not to my tastes.

    So, I say no.
    I am utterly devoted to Tomoe River but it is true that ink can take a while to dry on it. You need a blotter if you do not have the time to let the ink dry on its own.
    It's not even the dry time as much as it is that the ink never really dries. I've had letters sent with boring ink that will still smudge off the page if handled too much. The ink is a week or more old.

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    Default Re: Tomoe River

    Mungmul: HERE

    You may also look for SEKISHU - it is only 32gr but it is suitable for watercolour.

    TAIZAN, 30 gr is fine for writing, and less transparant than SEKISHU.

    I don't have anymore "exotic" papers I know about for writting, eventhough I am certain there must be more.
    Last edited by fountainpagan; May 13th, 2019 at 12:32 AM.

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    why Tomoe river is so good?
    Is it, though?
    I say yes. What say you?
    Honestly, I used it for a while and overall don't much care for it. The appeal of TR is that is brings out sheen and is very smooth paper. Which is fine, but I find it too smooth. Plus, the same function that allows it to bring out sheen from, well, anything, also means that the ink smears off the page very easily. I have found that even something as simple as holding a letter in your hand to read it leaves smudges on your thumb. Finally, while I can see where thin paper appeals to some (indeed, the vintage almost-like-onion-skin feel is interesting), the show-through is not to my tastes.

    So, I say no.
    I am utterly devoted to Tomoe River but it is true that ink can take a while to dry on it. You need a blotter if you do not have the time to let the ink dry on its own.
    It's not even the dry time as much as it is that the ink never really dries. I've had letters sent with boring ink that will still smudge off the page if handled too much. The ink is a week or more old.
    Wow. That has never happened to me before. There is one ink I have used that takes a long time to dry but it does finally dry though...

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