Ink Manufacturers?

[Chrissy]

While Austria for bottled inks and Germany (schmidt I heard) for ballpoint and rollerball refills.

Please can we start again? We were talking about Monteverde making inks, not pens, and I suggested that they were ink manufacturers who made ink brands in Austria until you replied: "Monteverde does not produce inks, nor pens. They outsource." So are you now agreeing that their inks are made in Austria, but that they are made under some other brand name rather than Monteverde? You lost me.