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    Default Fountain Pen & Mechanical Pencil Combos

    It's not so much that I like USING fountain pen/mechanical pencil combos, it's rather that I like the clever little idea of them....and in this case their colorful celluloid bodies.

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    Default Re: Fountain Pen & Mechanical Pencil Combos

    Quote Originally Posted by jbb View Post
    It's not so much that I like USING fountain pen/mechanical pencil combos, it's rather that I like the clever little idea of them....and in this case their colorful celluloid bodies.

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    I don't have any, but I can certainly see the attraction. Very nice. Who's the maker?

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    Default Re: Fountain Pen & Mechanical Pencil Combos

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Note View Post

    I don't have any, but I can certainly see the attraction. Very nice. Who's the maker?
    One is Waltham and the other is a no-name. Combos seems to have been made by the lesser valued manufacturers.
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    Oh... Actually I wish I had this. Just saw Peter Draws make a video about a double ended fountain pen by bbs. But an end which is a pencil makes a lot more sense, at least for drawing.

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    Default Re: Fountain Pen & Mechanical Pencil Combos

    I also like the the idea, but do not like the execution. I think it has to do with having a sharp pointy object in a relatively straight line with my eye.

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    I have a little mini collection of these. Here are a few; a couple of small mechanical pencils got thrown in because they were right there.

    L-R, a Remington, two Wearevers, and an Arnold. The Arnold had a destroyed nib, but a spare Sheaffer nib that I had in my parts box turned out to be a good fit.



    I agree that these often have very nice celluloid bodies, and if I recall, most of the ones I have write pretty well, too. But they aren't very practical, low ink capacity, not good for shirt pockets, no pencil eraser.

    But about that last point, I've see pictures of some where the pen and pencil halves come apart in the middle, revealing an eraser. I wouldn't mind adding one like that to the collection.
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    Default Re: Fountain Pen & Mechanical Pencil Combos

    I also like the the idea, but do not like the execution. I think it has to do with having a sharp pointy object in a relatively straight line with my eye.

    But surely the idea is that you posts the caps, which means you do not have a pointy bit pointing at your eye as you write?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    I also like the the idea, but do not like the execution. I think it has to do with having a sharp pointy object in a relatively straight line with my eye.

    But surely the idea is that you posts the caps, which means you do not have a pointy bit pointing at your eye as you write?
    I was wondering about that as well, I post the pen when I use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrawler View Post
    I also like the the idea, but do not like the execution. I think it has to do with having a sharp pointy object in a relatively straight line with my eye.
    This. So much of this.
    At one point I took a small Waltham combo, cut off the pencil end and make a new end using black ebonite. But don't worry, I won't do that to nicer ones.

    Having said that, I do make an exception for this one, which I really like:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrawler View Post
    I also like the the idea, but do not like the execution. I think it has to do with having a sharp pointy object in a relatively straight line with my eye.
    This. So much of this.
    At one point I took a small Waltham combo, cut off the pencil end and make a new end using black ebonite. But don't worry, I won't do that to nicer ones.

    Having said that, I do make an exception for this one, which I really like:

    That.Is.Gorgeous!
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    Default Re: Fountain Pen & Mechanical Pencil Combos

    We had/have a couple of these combos. One, we restored for someone. The other needs attention. They seem cute.

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    Default Re: Fountain Pen & Mechanical Pencil Combos

    @penwash wow Will, that Indian is beautiful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    I also like the the idea, but do not like the execution. I think it has to do with having a sharp pointy object in a relatively straight line with my eye.

    But surely the idea is that you posts the caps, which means you do not have a pointy bit pointing at your eye as you write?
    I don't post my pens when I write, so it won't always remember to do it.

    I think it would be a much better design if the pointy pencil end can be pulled out, turned around, and reinserted at the end of the barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahriman4891 View Post
    @penwash wow Will, that Indian is beautiful!
    Indeed. I've been only admiring it through photos, when I actually see it in person, I was blown away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy View Post
    I also like the the idea, but do not like the execution. I think it has to do with having a sharp pointy object in a relatively straight line with my eye.

    But surely the idea is that you posts the caps, which means you do not have a pointy bit pointing at your eye as you write?
    I thought the idea was that you can sketch lightly with pencil to put in perspective and basic forms, and then easily flip to pen to add detail, and just go back and forth in a more iterative streamlined manner, rather than doing the entire sketch first in one go, or having to put down the one for the other as you work. Very practical. As for erasing, that's the last step after the drawing is complete and the ink is dry, it's not too inconvenient to have a normal eraser, you wouldn't want to use a tiny one for a whole drawing.

    I think if you're not going back and forth between pencil and pen there's no real benefit to combining them, it isn't hard to carry both. I guess there's some justification that you normally write on good paper, but sometimes have to write on cheap paper, so the combination means you won't forget and you always have an option to use pencil. But since the pencil end isn't capped, it seems awkward to carry around. But that's a problem even in the usage I imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zou View Post
    ... I think if you're not going back and forth between pencil and pen there's no real benefit to combining them, it isn't hard to carry both. I guess there's some justification that you normally write on good paper, but sometimes have to write on cheap paper, so the combination means you won't forget and you always have an option to use pencil. But since the pencil end isn't capped, it seems awkward to carry around. But that's a problem even in the usage I imagine.
    My guess (and it's only a guess) is that these were seen as novelty items rather than serious writing instruments, the kind of thing people get as stocking stuffers or impulse buys. Nowadays they're interesting to collectors, but they still aren't what most people would choose for a writing instrument.

    One reason I'd guess that is that so many of these were made by third tier brands, such as Wearever. I think there were some exceptions from more reputable brands, although I don't have examples handy. But I'd think that most people who wanted to carry both a pen and a pencil had no problem carrying separate ones, as you say, it's not hard. Maybe a matched set from the same maker, but still separate.

    I guess that's enough guessing for one post. But I know that my own attitude towards these is that they're interesting and didn't cost me too much. I've made sure that all of mine are working, and they do write reasonably well. But I haven't had any of the pen halves inked in a long time, and if I want a mechanical pencil, there are others that I reach for.
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    Default Re: Fountain Pen & Mechanical Pencil Combos

    Here is a Twinpoint combo


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    Default Re: Fountain Pen & Mechanical Pencil Combos

    Quote Originally Posted by penwash View Post
    ...this one, which I really like....
    Goodness, you certainly do come up with some unusual pieces!

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