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    Default Jason Mei Is Back!

    For any of you who might be interested, Jason (jjm5812) is back.

    Apparently he was successful in registering here and elsewhere using a different user name.
    He is currently selling pens here using the name CaseSensitive. He has an identical post over on Pentrace using the name Casey.

    Check it out. The dots are ridiculously easy to connect.
    Just FYI folks.

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    Default Re: Jason Mei Is Back!

    Would be good to know how you worked out 'CaseSensitive'/'Casey' is Jason Mei aka jjm5812

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    Default Re: Jason Mei Is Back!

    Quote Originally Posted by SIR View Post
    Would be good to know how you worked out 'CaseSensitive'/'Casey' is Jason Mei aka jjm5812
    I want to be very careful that I do not violate any of the sub-forum rules. Feel free to PM your e-mail address to me, if you wish. We can discuss on our private e-mails.
    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Jason Mei Is Back!

    If you make a public announcement like that, you should present your evidence publicly too.
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    Default Re: Jason Mei Is Back!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deb View Post
    If you make a public announcement like that, you should present your evidence publicly too.
    Not to mention the OP is a new account as well. I don't mind warnings, but I don't like unfounded and unsubstantiated accusations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoolBoy View Post
    I want to be very careful that I do not violate any of the sub-forum rules. Feel free to PM your e-mail address to me, if you wish. We can discuss on our private e-mails.
    Thanks!
    As others have already stated, the details are important to verify the veracity of the concerns, as well as inform the community on what warning signs to watch out for.

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    Default Re: Jason Mei Is Back!

    Thank you Deb & Jon. I completely understand your points and I want to do my best to explain what I have done and why I have done it in the way you’ve seen. FPG has never been short of differences of opinion and, if we disagree, I hope we can do so in a collegial manner.

    First, I would be happy to communicate further with either of you or any member including CaseSensitive via PM. Some have already chosen to do so and we have had some very good exchanges. I believe every one I have communicated with thus far had already come to the same conclusion or did so as a result of our messages back and forth.

    I am not doing this in secret or behind CaseSensitive’s back. He is welcome to make a post disavowing that he is jjm5812. For me to present my evidence that CaseSensitive, & Casey (used on Pentrace) and jjim5812 (Jason J Mei) are all one and the same person might require the disclosure of information which some would say are personal details. And that, I think, is against the rules of this sub-forum, isn’t it Deb??

    I am not saying anything disparaging or offensive about anyone. I am just sharing evidence driven information which, I believe, some members might find insightful. Enough said………

    Honestly, anyone on this Forum could spend about 5-10 minutes of their time doing the same due diligence as me and they would come to the same conclusion. The dots are incredibly easy to connect.

    Yes, I am a new account. But, that does not mean I am new here. Only that I have finally found something I thought worthy of a post. And, you have to register to post. Maybe now that I am registered I will post more. I don’t know. But, if my new registration makes me less creditable there is nothing I can do about it other than hope that one of the regulars will corroborate my findings.

    Finally, I am not here to break rules; it is to share information. If the Moderator has any concern about my post(s), I will gladly delete them.

    Thank you.

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    I don't see that explaining how you have come to your conclusion breaks any rule. The point of the market feedback sub-forum is to enlighten the membership and I don't understand why that should be done in email rather than here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deb View Post
    I don't see that explaining how you have come to your conclusion breaks any rule. The point of the market feedback sub-forum is to enlighten the membership and I don't understand why that should be done in email rather than here.
    Precisely. If you are treating this as a public forum where you can call out a party and impune their reputation, you owe it to that same public forum to reveal that information to all in the same manner. I left passing notes in class back in high school, and that is what all that back-channel stuff is.
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    Default Re: Jason Mei Is Back!

    Based upon my view of images of pens listed on FPGeeks by jjm5812 (top photo) and pens listed on Pentrace by CaseCensitive or Casey (bottom photo), the background fabric under the pens appears to be the same, perhaps on the same dark wood laminate.

    I do not use Pentrace, and I don't understand how Casey and CaseSensitive edit one another's posts (as indicated).



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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    Based upon my view of images of pens listed on FPGeeks by jjm5812 (top photo) and pens listed on Pentrace by CaseCensitive or Casey (bottom photo), the background fabric under the pens appears to be the same, perhaps on the same dark wood laminate.
    Same style of presentation too - definitely more than circumstantial evidence.

    Would one be right in guessing there's a lot of similarity in the accompanying text of the adverts?

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    Default Re: Jason Mei Is Back!

    Makes me go hmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

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    hhmmmmmmmmmmmm
    "Love is the final fight."

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    Well, isn't this amusing.

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    Default Re: Jason Mei Is Back!

    As of this morning, this seems to prove at least that "CaseSensitive" and "Casey" on pentrace PenMarket are the same person:

    Screen Shot 2019-07-23 at 07.33.14.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    As of this morning, this seems to prove at least that "CaseSensitive" and "Casey" on pentrace PenMarket are the same person:
    I think someone should let Len P. know about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    As of this morning, this seems to prove at least that "CaseSensitive" and "Casey" on pentrace PenMarket are the same person:
    I think someone should let Len P. know about this.
    I'm not a member on pentrace and I'm afraid I don't know Len P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    As of this morning, this seems to prove at least that "CaseSensitive" and "Casey" on pentrace PenMarket are the same person:
    I think someone should let Len P. know about this.
    I'm not a member on pentrace and I'm afraid I don't know Len P.
    Besides "CaseSensitive" and "Casey," Jason Mei has also used the following screen names on Pentrace:
    "Chris," "pen2find," "J.M." & "Jay."

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    Default Re: Jason Mei Is Back!

    He's also changed the background to his pens on Imgur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    As of this morning, this seems to prove at least that "CaseSensitive" and "Casey" on pentrace PenMarket are the same person:
    I think someone should let Len P. know about this.
    I'm not a member on pentrace and I'm afraid I don't know Len P.
    Ok, I'll drop him a note. I hate to point to the "he said, she said" threads but I don't know any other way.
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