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    Default Bock nib question

    This is for those who obviously have a lot more exposure to pens than I do.

    I was reading a review of a Leonardo Momento Zero which stated that the steel nib was by Bock and, because it was made from "harmonic steel", expressed a nice degree of springiness. My question, in light of this revelation, is whether all steel Bock nibs exhibit this property? Or is this something specific to this pen brand?

    In asking this I am also considering the fact that Eboya pens use Bock nibs, although these are gold ones. So do Bock gold nibs also have a springy feel? (Eboya is still on my radar, but I would be buying direct from Japan rather than have any 3rd party fiddle with the nib).

    Thanks in advance for any info offered.

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    Default Re: Bock nib question

    I have a Leonardo Momento Zero with a stub nib which doesn't feel any springier than other steel stubs such as TWISBI Jowo nibs but that may be the stub itself

    But when I compare a Conid steel Bock fine with a TWSBI Jowo fine there does seem a bit more spring in the Bock (and a lot more smoothness) - Not very different in spring but subtlety noticeable . You can put that down to either Bock, Conid or maybe my own cognitive dissonance on comparing an expensive vs cheap pen

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    Default Re: Bock nib question

    It sounds like great marketing copy to me, but I find myself becoming more and skeptical of advertising words the longer I am around.
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    Default Re: Bock nib question

    Perhaps, but this wasn't in the advertising, it was from an apparently independent review. Incidentally, they were talking about the fine steel Bock and specifically noted that the stub was not as springy!

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    Default Re: Bock nib question

    Well, I have two Ranga pens with Bock nibs. The F nib is a bit springy (not flexy) and the stub isn't at all, but the stub is very smooth.
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    Default Re: Bock nib question

    Not sure what "harmonic steel is" but it sounds like "song and dance" to me.

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    Default Re: Bock nib question

    From what I could find from searching, harmonic steel actually was a thing back in the forging days and seemed to make the steel somewhat flexible yet would return to its original shape prior to flexing. The same concept seems to be applied to some companies' steel nibs. Not sure if it is a real thing or not, but consensus over on FPN seems to revolve around marketing rather than anything proven. I'll admit that I'm not educated enough to really understand.
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    Default Re: Bock nib question

    I guess that's just another name for spring steel then. I hate being wrong but I am used to it.

    I know there's distinct differences in feeling of springiness between my Pelikan steel nib and others.

    One company that makes stainless springs says they use certain alloys (302, 316, 17-7) and temper them appropriately.

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    Default Re: Bock nib question

    The review that spoke of the springiness was on The Other Site

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    Default Re: Bock nib question

    The Laban pens I have have Bock nibs in them. I've found them to be really nice writers, but I haven't noticed them as being springy.
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    Default Re: Bock nib question

    #6 Bock nibs have a little bounce to them. #5's - not so much...

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    Default Re: Bock nib question

    Additional question.

    Can you fit a Bock nib (say a Titanium one) into a Jowo collar and feed?

    I ask this as I have no pens with Bock nibs, I do have a couple with Jowo #6 nibs, and I thought I might like to try one of these nibs without buying a whole pen.

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    Default Re: Bock nib question

    A #6 (6mm feed), probably. A #5, maybe.

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