It's interesting that you're using insults, given your claims to being very concerned about how you are perceived. I see this when people are not able to form cogent arguments using facts and reason.
It's not that it's unnecessarily flowery, it's that it contains multiple false statements. I understand that you would choose to say things that aren't true, or to express opinions you don't hold, in an attempt to be popular with everyone, but I'm simply not. I don't see a reason to make up false statements to protect people from their own difficulties accepting information.Here's an example of how you could have worded the original without ruffling feathers.
Now you may think this is unnecessarily flowery, but in a casual forum - which is what this place mostly is - this kind of approach is more likely to get your message across and stimulate further discussion.Hi Fred, that sure is a great looking pen. I've not yet come across a non-black bodied Masterpiece in my study of Sheaffer history. It's possible that it could be off-catalogue, but I don't know for sure. Did the seller give any clues about provenance? Either way it still a super nice pen
And finally, the simple facts:No; information pissed off one person, and someone else I did not even address fabricated several statements, attributed them to me, and then attacked me for them. I exposed these fabrications, and they apparently were pissed off by that exposure. Some other people didn't like reading the ensuing argument, which I won handily. I'm not responsible for some other people's difficulties accepting information; that's on them. I'm not responsible for the inevitable embarrassment that comes when someone's falsehoods are exposed; that's on them. If people don't like seeing arguments, they should ask people not to start them on a dishonest basis. Again, you seem very, very concerned with your popularity; I'm not in the least.
1. You pissed off a bunch of us.
I understand why. Some people don't like learning information that doesn't please them, and some people don't like having their fabrications exposed.2. You don't understand why.
No. You gave your opinion, which I don't agree with.3. You were told why.
Our? Is this a group message? It's not signed. Who all contributed to it?4. You don't accept our explanation of why.
Define "self-grooming explanation," preferably with a citation. I haven't seen that term previously. I'm not sure what it would mean for an explanation to groom itself.5. You prefer your self-grooming explanation.
You've spent multiple posts trying to tell me how to think. You seem very concerned with trying to make other people want to be as popular as you try to be. Our values are different.Remember the last time I asked you to tell me how to think? Yeah, me neither.
--Daniel
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