This valuable and uncommon beauty was brought out for me from under a vendor's table at the 2019 Ohio Pen Show, and I succumbed. The Masterpiece sports solid gold.
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This valuable and uncommon beauty was brought out for me from under a vendor's table at the 2019 Ohio Pen Show, and I succumbed. The Masterpiece sports solid gold.
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Last edited by FredRydr; November 7th, 2019 at 03:51 PM.
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Is it alright for me to be envious?
In any event, if you would be so kind, could you post a photo of the nib perhaps? (So that I can become even more envious).
Quid rides? Mutato nomine de te fabula narratur. — Horace
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No way that barrel is solid gold. Nonetheless, I'm happy for you.
"When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick;
and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."
~ Benjamin Franklin
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I haven't written with it yet, but these nibs are very reliable and predictable. In any event, the pen was throughly restored by the top penmeister/plungermeister.
Um, I think you may be right about the barrel. Lesson learned!
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Does anybody know what other nibs have an upturned tip? I only know of the Triumph nib, the old Macniven and Cameron Waverly dip pen nib, and of course the Pilot nib of the same name, but I imagine there must be others because it works so well. (Sorry to be skirting an off-topic tangent. Back in school I had a tendency to lead class discussions "off on a tangent," and was regularly brought to task for it.)
Quid rides? Mutato nomine de te fabula narratur. — Horace
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I only know of Waverly before Sheaffer.
Nice pen, though a mismatch; there's no evidence the Crest Masterpiece was offered in any color other than black.
--Daniel
“Every discussion which is made from an egoistic standpoint is corrupted from the start and cannot yield an absolutely sure conclusion. The ego puts its own interest first and twists every argument, word, even fact to suit that interest.”
― Paul Brunton, The Notebooks of Paul Brunton
Seattleite (December 4th, 2019)
When you say there's no evidence, what you mean, of course, is that there is no evidence of which you are aware. Thus, you fail to prove that the pen is a mismatch; it's a non sequitur to say that because you are not aware of certain evidence it follows that the pen must be a mismatch. All you accomplish is to come across sounding as if you think that you are so expert that if you are not aware of evidence pertaining to a Sheaffer, it must not exist.
Last edited by calamus; November 27th, 2019 at 07:24 PM.
Quid rides? Mutato nomine de te fabula narratur. — Horace
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I never stated that there was "proof" that the pen was a mismatch, not did I say "the pen must be a mismatch," nor did I say such a model "must not exist," so that's a straw man argument, and because I have not made that claim, there is no non-sequitur.
When you (repeatedly) fabricate someone else's position in order to attack it, you undermine the assumption that you are engaging in the discussion in good faith.
What I actually said -- as opposed to the made-up assertions you attributed to me -- is that all the available evidence weighs against the pen being authentic. Only someone arguing in bad faith would pretend that I said that I'd proven the pen is a mismatch, or that the pen must be a mismatch, or that the model does not exist, which are the fabricated claims you said I made.
If you're genuinely interested in this discussion, please contribute something to it. Are you aware of evidence that Sheaffer offered a model corresponding to the one shown here by Fred?
--Daniel
“Every discussion which is made from an egoistic standpoint is corrupted from the start and cannot yield an absolutely sure conclusion. The ego puts its own interest first and twists every argument, word, even fact to suit that interest.”
― Paul Brunton, The Notebooks of Paul Brunton
You clearly asserted that it was a mismatch, and your stated reason for the assertion was that "there's no evidence the Crest Masterpiece was offered in any color other than black." I made no straw man argument, you're just quibbling and trying to duck the obvious implications of your words.
Quid rides? Mutato nomine de te fabula narratur. — Horace
(What are you laughing at? Just change the name and the joke’s on you.)
Incorrect. I offered my expert opinion and I clearly explained my reasoning. The fabricated assertions you attributed to me about “proof” are simply straw man arguments and are void. Your evasion and failure to retract your falsified claims are telling.
Can you contribute to the discussion? Do you have any evidence that Sheaffer offered a model as shown by Fred?
—Daniel
Last edited by kirchh; November 30th, 2019 at 02:34 PM.
“Every discussion which is made from an egoistic standpoint is corrupted from the start and cannot yield an absolutely sure conclusion. The ego puts its own interest first and twists every argument, word, even fact to suit that interest.”
― Paul Brunton, The Notebooks of Paul Brunton
Too bad you haven't the evidence. But here it is. I like it that Sheaffer has a history of producing such special pens that keep the experts guessing.
Thank you for the compliment.
“Every discussion which is made from an egoistic standpoint is corrupted from the start and cannot yield an absolutely sure conclusion. The ego puts its own interest first and twists every argument, word, even fact to suit that interest.”
― Paul Brunton, The Notebooks of Paul Brunton
Nope. Take a lesson on the issue from Messrs. Isaacson and Wooten: http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/in...ce-frankenpen/ Therefore, I'm not concerned, so you needn't worry about it on my behalf.
As the posts in that thread make clear, there is no evidence your cap and barrel were originally sold together as a pen. Absent any evidence for the correctness or originality of a pen that could trivially be created from a cap and barrel from two different pens, the rational conclusion provided by Occam's Razor is clear.
If your pen has no "5000" imprint on the barrel, that possible piece of confirming evidence is not present, so as it stands there's still no evidence your cap and barrel belong together.
I can't see the whole pen from all angles; where's the White Dot?
I'm not worried at all. I'm providing information about your Sheaffer pen. As I noted, and as the thread you linked also says, there's no evidence your pen is anything other than the combination of the cap from one model with the barrel from another. That's not something to be worried about; it's just information which should be of interest.I'm not concerned, so you needn't worry about it on my behalf.
--Daniel
Last edited by kirchh; November 24th, 2019 at 09:30 AM.
“Every discussion which is made from an egoistic standpoint is corrupted from the start and cannot yield an absolutely sure conclusion. The ego puts its own interest first and twists every argument, word, even fact to suit that interest.”
― Paul Brunton, The Notebooks of Paul Brunton
Just beautiful. You scored.
calamus (November 19th, 2019)
Here's a gold Sheaffer Crest Masterpiece that Teri has for sale. https://www.peytonstreetpens.com/she...-restored.html
Quid rides? Mutato nomine de te fabula narratur. — Horace
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