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    Quote Originally Posted by jar View Post
    I was asked just today if I wanted to "lunch up" next week.
    The only appropriate response to that is, "shut the fuck up."
    Vintage. Cursive italic. Iron gall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jar View Post
    I was asked just today if I wanted to "lunch up" next week.
    And is this the same as "level up?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jar View Post
    I was asked just today if I wanted to "lunch up" next week.
    And is this the same as "level up?"
    Or more specific than 'meet up'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VertOlive View Post
    As my 30-something boss with half-shaven head of pink hair and pierced cheekbones would sneer, “So Boomer.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_Boomer More detail on this than I could have wished for.

    Meanwhile, someone was gifted (not given) a pen in Pens in General! How timely!

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    I may never know if "lunch up" is the same as "level up" since learning two new things may be beyond my capabilities. It might be similar to "Meet up" but I've never had a "meet up" either. That might be similar to "day up" often heard as a daily special arrived in the window at the Greasy Spoon.

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    I like to tell the English teachers that I work with that I "grammar good."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddler View Post
    When I was looking for a good electronic dictionary, I found several that could not pass my test for verity. The ones that failed the test made synonyms of the words "greed" and "envy". These dictionaries, at a stroke, wiped out one of the seven deadly sins and nullified the main difference between the two most important political parties in the US.
    I used to make dictionaries. Me!

    Like language, dictionaries are made by humans and therefore imperfect.

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    I read a report yesterday which contained the gem "maps should be evergreen." I think this is another way (not that we needed another way) to say "keep the maps up to date."

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    Whilst we are discussing the use of modern English can I take you back to times gone by and the Pedants Revolt



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    In another venue on our shared topic, there are many threads that start "Recommend me a pen!".
    "When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick;
    and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."

    ~ Benjamin Franklin

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    “Mug up” is woke.
    "Nolo esse salus sine vobis ...” —St. Augustine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    In another venue on our shared topic, there are many threads that start "Recommend me a pen!".
    Those always remind me of this little gem that I printed out and hung in my classroom. My poor students learned quickly that even texts or instant messages to me must consist of fully spelled-out words, complete sentences, proper grammar, and appropriate punctuation.
    Attachment 52172
    Online arguments are a lot like the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
    As soon as the audience begins to participate, any actual content is lost in the resulting chaos and cacophony.
    At that point, all you can do is laugh and enjoy the descent into debasement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    In another venue on our shared topic, there are many threads that start "Recommend me a pen!".
    Or "Recommend me a blue ink."

    or

    "Majority of people think...."

    On the other hand, I truly believe that language evolves, and we'll all be okay. I'm sure folks in the 1950s thought that language was going to hell in a hand basket then.
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    'To hell in a hand basket' thats a great phrase just in itself and an example of language evolving out of US culture.

    The phrase or variations of it such as hell in a handbag/bucketcomes from a number of written works and music, Helena Handbasket was even a Friends character.

    The more usual European saying of 'to hell in a handcart' comes from a Bosch painting of the 16th Century.

    I take it to mean the inevitability of where we are going, present company excepted of course.

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    Cat grammar. It is all cat grammar.
    "Nothing is enough for the man to whom enough is too little." -Epicurus-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Onogaro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    In another venue on our shared topic, there are many threads that start "Recommend me a pen!".
    Or "Recommend me a blue ink."

    or

    "Majority of people think...."

    On the other hand, I truly believe that language evolves, and we'll all be okay. I'm sure folks in the 1950s thought that language was going to hell in a hand basket then.
    Well, some freaks in the 1950s burned records in the streets and sued Ferlinghetti for publishing Howl. So, yeah, some people were worried about Hell. My guess is, though, that there are more zealots there than purveyors of lazy language. Gadzooks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fermata View Post
    'To hell in a hand basket' thats a great phrase just in itself and an example of language evolving out of US culture.

    The phrase or variations of it such as hell in a handbag/bucketcomes from a number of written works and music, Helena Handbasket was even a Friends character.

    The more usual European saying of 'to hell in a handcart' comes from a Bosch painting of the 16th Century.

    I take it to mean the inevitability of where we are going, present company excepted of course.
    I've always known it as "to hell in a handcart" but wasn't aware that came from a Bosch painting of the 16th century. Would that be A Heavenly Host of Delights?
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    Sprece žū Englisc?

    The complaints about language changing are nothing new and stretch back thousands of years. If you can't read Old English (or even Middle English), kindly piss-off, ya pedants.

    The irony of mentioning Shakespeare is apparently lost on this group. The man invented around 1700 words extensively by changing nouns into verbs, changing verbs into adjective.

    So saddle-up (the likely, historical root of "lunch up", cowpokes), and relish in the lexicological freedom of wordplay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fermata View Post
    'To hell in a hand basket' thats a great phrase just in itself and an example of language evolving out of US culture.

    The phrase or variations of it such as hell in a handbag/bucketcomes from a number of written works and music, Helena Handbasket was even a Friends character.

    The more usual European saying of 'to hell in a handcart' comes from a Bosch painting of the 16th Century.

    I take it to mean the inevitability of where we are going, present company excepted of course.
    I've always known it as "to hell in a handcart" but wasn't aware that came from a Bosch painting of the 16th century. Would that be A Heavenly Host of Delights?

    I dont know much, if anything about Bosch, but I think there are two Bosch paintings which show a handcart, one is the Hay Wain, or possibly Hay Wagon, and the other is the Garden of Earthly Delights, which shows a hand pulled cart piled high with hay with people on top, the cart is being pulled to the right, to hell.

    eta

    I have just looked up this about Bosch to see if any of it made sense, but both paintings showed a handcart on their way to hell, the Garden of Earthly Delights was the more accurate with the handcart actually in hell with the dead on board.

    On a different note you will see that this painting predates the popular use of perspective in art, everything appears two dimensional.

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    “I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies [languages]:
    1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works.
    2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it.
    3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.”

    -Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt

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