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    Whatever happened to the verbs "give" and "gave" to bring them into disrepute? More and more I read that someone wants to "gift" a pen, or that a pen was "gifted." It's awkward when a noun is being used as a verb. Alas, at least one online dictionary seems to accept it as a legitimate evolution of English. IMHO, like the careless use of apostrophes, it just ain't chill.

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    Default Re: Language

    It just ain't chill indeed.
    Yesterday, when I was reviewing my latest Diamine ink sample: "Monboddos Hat" was how it was printed on the bottle. I checked out who Monboddo was and had to add an apostrophe in it.
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    Even more of an annoyance is the current misuse of "ask" as a noun. No, you don't have a "big ask." You have a large request.
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    "First they came for the verbs, and I said nothing because verbing weirds language. Then they arrival for the nouns, and I speech nothing because I no verbs." — Peter Ellis.

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    Default Re: Language

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreck View Post
    No, you don't have a "big ask."
    This being the correct response to the enquiry "Does my ask look big in this?"

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    There is a current fashion of leaving the listener to do too much interpretation.

    For example.

    Commentator: I hear that Fermata has bought a new pen.

    Response: As if.


    There are so many possible meanings for the phrase 'as if'.

    I am reminded of the phrase taught in English class on emphasis. The phrase was, she is selling apples in the park today. Applying an emphasis to any of the words changes the meaning completely.

    I blame the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    It just ain't chill indeed.
    Yesterday, when I was reviewing my latest Diamine ink sample: "Monboddos Hat" was how it was printed on the bottle. I checked out who Monboddo was and had to add an apostrophe in it.
    You live in the UK; you could turn Diamine in to the office of the Apostropher Royal.
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    When I was looking for a good electronic dictionary, I found several that could not pass my test for verity. The ones that failed the test made synonyms of the words "greed" and "envy". These dictionaries, at a stroke, wiped out one of the seven deadly sins and nullified the main difference between the two most important political parties in the US.
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    There is a current fashion of leaving the listener to do too much interpretation.
    Poisonally I find this preferable to being spoonfed like I'm some sorta ijit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredRydr View Post
    Whatever happened to the verbs "give" and "gave" to bring them into disrepute? More and more I read that someone wants to "gift" a pen, or that a pen was "gifted." It's awkward when a noun is being used as a verb. Alas, at least one online dictionary seems to accept it as a legitimate evolution of English. IMHO, like the careless use of apostrophes, it just ain't chill.
    The online Merriam Webster dictionary website used to host a video of one of their editors ridiculing people who object to using the word "literally" to mean "figuratively." After a large but finite number of howls of protest by outraged readers, they apparently took it down and replaced it with one that says that using literally to mean figuratively is in actual fact a form of hyperbole, so it's good English so long as one exercises care, hyperbole being that sort of beast. Hrrrumph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_of_Clouds View Post
    There is a current fashion of leaving the listener to do too much interpretation.
    Poisonally I find this preferable to being spoonfed like I'm some sorta ijit.
    Not sure clarity is the same as spoonfeeding. I value the former for the same reason I value brevity — it respects my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_of_Clouds View Post
    There is a current fashion of leaving the listener to do too much interpretation.
    Poisonally I find this preferable to being spoonfed like I'm some sorta ijit.
    Not sure clarity is the same as spoonfeeding. I value the former for the same reason I value brevity — it respects my time.
    Yes I'm happy with clarity and brevity. I would never wish to be spoon-fed poison.
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    As my 30-something boss with half-shaven head of pink hair and pierced cheekbones would sneer, “So Boomer.”
    "Nolo esse salus sine vobis ...” —St. Augustine

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    Quote Originally Posted by catbert View Post

    Not sure clarity is the same as spoonfeeding. I value the former for the same reason I value brevity — it respects my time.
    Recently, a student of mine said that Shakespeare had too many scenes in Romeo and Juliet. The rest of the class period was unpleasant.

    Yeah, I'm a Boomer, literally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post

    Yes I'm happy with clarity and brevity. I would never wish to be spoon-fed poison.
    Yeah, I prefer mine in pint mugs too.

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    I have the same issues. More and more, the language, both spoken and written, is being slowly killed in society. Heck all I have to do now to make sure my kids can’t read my journal is write in cursive. I am frustrated at a system that is taking away physical writing from our society.

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    I was asked just today if I wanted to "lunch up" next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by catbert View Post

    Not sure clarity is the same as spoonfeeding. I value the former for the same reason I value brevity — it respects my time.
    Recently, a student of mine said that Shakespeare had too many scenes in Romeo and Juliet. The rest of the class period was unpleasant.

    Yeah, I'm a Boomer, literally.


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    Your student should see the uncut version of Hamlet sometime.

    Art can be as long and elusive as it needs to be — and verb with impunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jar View Post
    I was asked just today if I wanted to "lunch up" next week.
    Ok, but having "mug up" in the morning (coffee and danish around 10 am) is one of my favorite things.

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