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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

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    I respectfully disagree.
    Nothing "silly" about refilling cartridges unless you enjoy greater expense and environmental waste.
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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    I like bottles: wide color choice and less guilt about cartridges. Though I have been known to refill cartridges...

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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

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    I respectfully disagree.
    Nothing "silly" about refilling cartridges unless you enjoy greater expense and environmental waste.
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    No problem in disagreeing with a person's comment but we currently don't know exactly which one you're disagreeing with.
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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

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    I respectfully disagree.
    Nothing "silly" about refilling cartridges unless you enjoy greater expense and environmental waste.
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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by resipsa View Post
    AS A NEWBIE, I FIND THIS SITE VERY USER UNFRIENDLY.
    Resipsa, can you specify why "you find this site very user unfriendly" [caps omitted]?

    How does it compare to another fountain pen users site (FPN)?
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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    I like bottles which are my preferred method of recharging my favorite pens to match my favorite colours.
    The Pilot Falcon in particular the resin, has one of the smallest converters and I just get 2 to 2.5 pages of an A5 notebook before drying out. If I use the cartridge then I get 4 to 4.5 pages because of the higher volume that the cartridge carries. I use a syringe to recharge my favorite blue/black because my pen is very thirsty with a small gas tank.
    The Pilot Falcon Metal has a larger Converter. On the flip side the resin allows you to change out colour inks much more rapidly.

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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    Ink Bottles, it's simply economical and I know the pros of cartridge but it's just isn't versatile with ink choices and types and it's a hassle with the hard starts when one cartridge is over.

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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    Bottles, because they are part of the genuine vintage fountain pen experience. Or is that too sentimental to justify the occasional mess?

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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    Bottles are so much more convenient.

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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    In most cases ... usually bottles.......................

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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    Bottles... Though, recently I've been emptying undesirable ink cartridges and filling them with the ink of my choice. .... Kaweco, because I didn't bother with a convertor and the rest, I believe are mostly because of evaporation. I'm testing to see if I can stall evaporation

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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Bottles... Though, recently I've been emptying undesirable ink cartridges and filling them with the ink of my choice. .... Kaweco, because I didn't bother with a convertor and the rest, I believe are mostly because of evaporation. I'm testing to see if I can stall evaporation
    It's difficult to stall evaporation because it depends on the ink and the pen. I believe ink evaporates in most pens whether it's in a converter or a cartridge. Nothing is sealed tightly enough to prevent it. However, you can always add a bit of water back in to replace what was lost.
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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
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    Bottles... Though, recently I've been emptying undesirable ink cartridges and filling them with the ink of my choice. .... Kaweco, because I didn't bother with a convertor and the rest, I believe are mostly because of evaporation. I'm testing to see if I can stall evaporation
    It's difficult to stall evaporation because it depends on the ink and the pen. I believe ink evaporates in most pens whether it's in a converter or a cartridge. Nothing is sealed tightly enough to prevent it. However, you can always add a bit of water back in to replace what was lost.
    Thanks Chrissy. Your insights are much appreciated.
    I have noticed that my Kanwrite convertor and almost all Chinese convertors are not airtight, meaning that when I clean them, I have often ink behind the piston.
    On the other hand an old Pilot variety my wife had for god how how long, wrote for a long time (around 5 to 8 years).
    I don't want to keep my pens inked that long but I'm a bit of an ink nerd, meaning that for certain things, I need certain inks and nibs...

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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    I think if they were completely air tight, the ink could never get out. Air has to get in somehow.

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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    either

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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    I use whichever is needed for the situation such as others have said about travel. I do like saving the empty bottles for other uses.
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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    Hi Gnat9, et al,

    For me, I prefer bottles. I enjoy their broad color range and their economy... you can get around 80 refills out of a standard bottle. 👍

    ( I know you can refill carts from a bottle, but that's just more work).

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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    Of course bottles



    (because a good FP has a proper filling system different than a disdainful cartridge)








    (Luckily even a handicapped cartridge pen can be enhanced with a converter)


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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    Regarding eyedroppers, my grail pen is actually an eyedropper: Namiki Emperor Vermillion (f). Granted, it's not like the eyedroppers of old. It has a writing reservoir and a reserve, and you must open the valve to let the ink flow. But that means you can take it on a plane. You can use it without worrying that it will drool all over the page... etc.

    I've also, believe it or not, had a great experience with the Charlie Pen that came with my bottle of Manjiro Nakahama Whaleman's Sepia. Even though the instructions tell you to refill at ~ 1/3 full, I wrote it dry. It didn't burp or drool once.

    I use a blunt-tipped syringe to refill cartridges with bottled ink, because it's impossible to get cartridges filled with the inks I like. I prefer piston-fillers, though. Granted, I've not used a vac-filler yet... When I finally get an 823, that may change. For the piston-fillers, I have a small ink-well that works nicely.

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    Default Re: Cartridge vs Bottle - Which one do you prefer?

    Bottles, but mainly because whichever is chosen they must be shipped from overseas. Bottles are a more cost effective with regard to shipping. And also, not all my pens take cartridges!

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