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    Hi, Anderson pens website shows a nib option I’ve never seen before. They call it a journaler. I’ve never heard of it before. Can someone tell me what type of nib is a Journaler?
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    It’s a custom grind being done for Esterbrook by Gena Salorino. More information here. She’s good, and the nib she is modeling it after is very nice to use.
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    That is a nice website, clean, interesting and informative.

    The Journaler is a stub nib based on the 9314M Esterbrook, one of my favourite nibs.

    Q and A from Gena on the creation of the nib

    https://www.esterbrookpens.com/2020/03/31/1464/

    She also makes an oblique nib using a 30 degree grind, most others are at 15 degrees, if that grind can be kept without the nib going too broad then that could be an interesting oblique indeed.

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    Why not get a vintage Esterbrook with an original https://www.ebay.com/itm/Esterbrook-...ss!37914!US!-1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    Why not get a vintage Esterbrook with an original https://www.ebay.com/itm/Esterbrook-...ss!37914!US!-1
    Because people like different things. Many younger pen enthusiasts happen to *like* the way the new Esties look (I don't, but tastes vary) and for them to be able to offer an interesting nib grind to go along with that is a bonus.

    I find the new pen overpriced and over logo-ed, so it doesn't come remotely close to my tastes and interest; OTOH, while I have probably 2 dozen original J series pens and probably 30 or more nibs of many styles and sizes, the pen is a bit too small (mostly in girth of the section) for prolonged writing sessions. I admire it's place in pendom and have a good representation of them, but they never became part of my daily (or even occasional) use pens.

    IOW, to each their own.
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    Just been reading the reviews of Gena's work and everyone is very enthusiastic about her skills including specialists grinds and nib tuning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fermata View Post
    Just been reading the reviews of Gena's work and everyone is very enthusiastic about her skills including specialists grinds and nib tuning.
    She's a gifted nib person and a delight to work with. Early on, while still apprenticing, she did some tuning/adjustments for me at the LA Show. Recently, she did a couple of tunes and 2 grinds while at the show and they are quite nicely done. A welcome addition to the modern collection of nib artists we have today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    Why not get a vintage Esterbrook with an original https://www.ebay.com/itm/Esterbrook-...ss!37914!US!-1
    Because people like different things. Many younger pen enthusiasts happen to *like* the way the new Esties look (I don't, but tastes vary) and for them to be able to offer an interesting nib grind to go along with that is a bonus.

    I find the new pen overpriced and over logo-ed, so it doesn't come remotely close to my tastes and interest; OTOH, while I have probably 2 dozen original J series pens and probably 30 or more nibs of many styles and sizes, the pen is a bit too small (mostly in girth of the section) for prolonged writing sessions. I admire it's place in pendom and have a good representation of them, but they never became part of my daily (or even occasional) use pens.

    IOW, to each their own.
    My perspective is not that some like new, but that anything new would not be the same necessarily in quality as an original made in the heyday or the brand. I agree to each their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fermata View Post
    Just been reading the reviews of Gena's work and everyone is very enthusiastic about her skills including specialists grinds and nib tuning.
    She's a gifted nib person and a delight to work with. Early on, while still apprenticing, she did some tuning/adjustments for me at the LA Show. Recently, she did a couple of tunes and 2 grinds while at the show and they are quite nicely done. A welcome addition to the modern collection of nib artists we have today.
    +1. I had 3 nibs ground by Gena last year; a broad architect, a broad sharp italic, and a smoothish needlepoint. All were very well done with a short 2 week turn-around time. This year she made a bouncy elastic (not flexible) nib by putting in cut-outs to the upper part of the nib. Has a very paintbrushy effect. Hopefully I can thank her in person if the SF Pen Show is still on.

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    Gena is swell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    My perspective is not that some like new, but that anything new would not be the same necessarily in quality as an original made in the heyday or the brand.
    Chuck, I know where you are coming from, but you asked why people would choose to buy this new version over an original Esterbrook. I tried to give the perspective of those that would. Many people purchase for the use and experience that they obtain from an object now, not for an ephemeral longevity based on quality construction. It's one of the downfalls of modern consumerist ethos, but it is what it is. And the thing is, you simply can't avoid the fact that what something looks like counts - you happen to like the dated, vintage look of the originals, but I've seen many younger buyers who go "ew, that thing is old!" when considering the quality of a vintage pen. I don't try to convince them otherwise.

    Like I said, you won't find me putting down money for those new junkers, but I can understand the audience that will.

    All of this has me thinking: I have to pass on / sell off a good portion of my original Esterbrooks, maybe just keeping a set of the Transitional J's and Dollar pens. Hmm...
    Last edited by Jon Szanto; June 13th, 2020 at 01:16 PM.
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