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    Default Re: Help verifying authenticity of good sample from early 1980's

    [QUOTE=AzJon;294047]
    Quote Originally Posted by Wmundstock View Post
    You'll be able to tell from the weight, honestly. The brass piston adds a lot of heft to the pen. The plastic one is very light in comparison.
    I'm confused about the mixed information I'm getting.

    I'm using this: This link for finding the dates.

    Let me describe the newly arrived pens (both share same settings):

    1. Nib is monotone gold.
    2. Nib holes are 12/6 or top/bottom
    3. Ink window is clear (looks like gray)
    4. Piston screw is plastic.
    5. Clip Engraving W-Germany / no serial number
    6. Brand Engraving says Montblanc Meisterstuck N 146

    So to me, that puts the pen between 1980 and 1984.

    Conflicts are:
    - Nib Holes (Top and bottom) they should be left and right. I think the source is incorrect, its the other way around as my newer pen do have left and right.


    My Newer pen is:
    1. Nib is 2-tone
    2. Nib holes are left and right (9/3)
    3. Ink window striped
    4. Piston is plastic
    5. Clip Engraving says Germany and has serial number
    6. Brand engraving says Montblanc Meisterstuck
    7. No pix under clip

    To me that puts the pen in 1995 and 96.

    Conflict are:
    - Piston Screw - either the pen was modified (replacing a brass screw with a plastic? Why would someone do that?) or the source is incorrect.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks.
    Walter

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    Default Re: Help verifying authenticity of good sample from early 1980's

    The whole piston mechanism was plastic with a brass collar. The threads that extended between the collar and the cap were a black plastic.

    Like I said, I'm old and sold all of my 146s from that relative era and so working from memory but IIRC the 70-80 146 piston was like the top example in this image.

    I wish I could remember who actually took these pictures and credit them but I fear this was sent to me some many years ago and unfortunately I've forgotten.
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    Default Re: Help verifying authenticity of good sample from early 1980's

    Various differences can appear on Montblanc pens by various services during it's lifetime. Even when brand new, Montblanc used up parts that they already had, especially around the time of reunification.
    Don't worry about insignificant differences between your pens and a chart.
    If they write and you like them then they are perfectly fine.
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    Default Re: Help verifying authenticity of good sample from early 1980's

    This pen looks like the 146 I bought from Fahrney's in 1983.

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    Default Re: Help verifying authenticity of good sample from early 1980's

    Okay, time to share more thoughts...
    After a few days I was able to fix the broken screw in one of the 146's from the package.
    Originally I bought these pens to fix and sell to make funds for a 149 which is in my wish list. The problem is that I'm now in love with the 2 extra 146s

    I already had one 146 from 1990's and now added these 2 1980's and they all have different characteristics and easthetics. Turns out that seems like the broken one was actually a fine nib, which I really wanted for quite a while.

    • 1980's with Medium nib is very very wet and veeery smooth with little feedback.

    • 1980's with a FINE NIB! It writes a much thinner line, with much more feedback - both characteristics I like a lot.

    • 1990's is in the middle, with a little bit thinner line in comparison with the Medium Nib from 80's. Also has a bit more feedback.



    Sample writing for each pen:
    Sample.jpg

    The pens from 80's are also 3 grams heavier, which I do like too.

    What you all think? I paid around 300 USD (including the part to fix the broken screw) for both pens. I've seen 146's in worse shape selling for more EACH.
    Thoughts?


    Can you tell there is a difference to the nib just by looking at a side by side picture?
    To me they both seem the same nib. Maybe its just a performance difference and they are both M nibs?
    Nibs.jpg

    Well, the bottom line, then, is: I'm not good at making money ouf of pens because I want to keep them all.

    Best regards.
    Walter

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    Default Re: Help verifying authenticity of good sample from early 1980's

    It happens to the best of us... I have some pens I should really sell but somehow I never get around to it.

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