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    Default Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    Had gotten really frustrated looking for what I want on the inter-web before I was lucky and ran across this forum. I'm older than dirt, former army medic, Registered Nurse, university in TEXAS, interested in Guns and Roses. Favorite pen in the past was a Shaffer Snorkel but left it behind somewhere. Now want to be able to sign my JOHN HANCOCK like he did, so looking for a wide calligraphy fountain pen in the less than $50 - $100 range on which I can change nibs, (hopefully).

    Any suggestions for me? If I can't find a good refillable fountain pen on which nibs can be changed at will, I'll probably go for one around 1.5 -- Think that'd be good? Thanks for any help!

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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    Best actual calligraphy pen is Pilot Parallel which comes in 4 widths. If you prefer normal fountain pens then I recommend TWSBI but it only comes in one size of italic stub,1.1mm. If you like changing nibs a lot then a vintage Osmiroid set would be a nice inexpensive option.

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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    I already replied to this on your welcome thread but I will repost it here:

    The Lamy Joy comes with a calligraphy nib in 1.1mm, 1.5mm or 1.9mm and all of the Lamy Safari, Al-Star and Nexx pens use the same steel nib so they are all interchangeable. Ensuring you get the calligraphy nib first means you can use it in any of those pens.

    If you go and search on Amazon for "Lamy 1.5 nib" it may come up with that nib availability in several different Lamy pens. Just in case you don't like the long desk type barrel of the Joy.

    Western made pens generally tend to have nibs that run wider than those made in Japan.

    You could also look at Sheaffer No Nonsense calligraphy pens.
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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    For calligraphy. Lamy Joy and Rotring Artpen are cheapish, enjoyable and high quality pens. You can buy swappable nibs and nib units for them. Of as Chrissy says you can just use Lamy Safaris if you want something that looks more like a typical fountain pen rather than a desk pen.

    The main difference is the grip. A triangular grip on the Joy/Safari and a round, ribbed grip on the Artpen. The triangular grip can help you with good pen holding, but some people don't like it.

    Add a Pilot Parallel in one of the larger sizes like 3.8mm or 6mm and you can do some fantastic capitals. I also find that if my calligraphy is looking a bit sxcratchy, practising with the big size nibs always shows up exactly where the problems are - it's like using a microscope on my handwriting for diagnosis!

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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    I went and looked at the Pilot Parallell and from the image I saw I considered it looked more like a paintbrush than a nib.
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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    I went and looked at the Pilot Parallell and from the image I saw I considered it looked more like a paintbrush than a nib.
    I have what I think is the complete set of Pilot Parallels, bought because...because...well, anyway, I bought them. They are interesting pens, but I haven't used them in a long time. I could write with the 1.5 mm one if I wanted to, almost normally, but with a bit of flair. The 6.0 mm one isn't practical for anything that I'd do at the moment, although you never know.

    Not really into calligraphy, though, although some of my coworkers refer to my garden variety cursive as "fancy writing".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    I went and looked at the Pilot Parallell and from the image I saw I considered it looked more like a paintbrush than a nib.
    I had one of those for a while. I had no practical use for it but it was a lot of fun. Got through much ink!
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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    It depends what type of calligraphy we're talking about.

    If this is what you're looking for:



    You need a flex nib. Ideally you would go for a quill or a dip pen
    I love writing with dip pens, it's meditative. But that's not what you're asking for.
    I have not used them, but Desiderata makes fountain pens with dip pen nibs and personally I don't think it'll be practical for everyday writing. A dip pen, forces you to slow down, if you know what I mean
    The second option is a cheap modern flex nib:
    Ahab is cheap, and love writing with them but they are not dependable....mine leaks. Still I used it quite a lot.
    Indian flex nibs are another option. My Kanwrite desire is a very agreeable pen. Though the convertor wasn't airtight. So, I use a cartridge....
    Vintage flex are soft and are enjoyable for long writing sessions......but if you're handwriting is iffy, in my experience, you're better off using a dip pen to gain control..... and they are hit or miss, and pricey....
    Calligraphy/ stub nibs, I've used quite a bit, but you gain the line variation by turning the pen instead of flexing the nib......
    I'll post later a sample of each so you can get an idea.......

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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    Here is the copy I promised... Hope it helps..

    Different nibs.jpg

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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    You could try a fountain pen revolutions ultraflex nib. Have one on their Himalaya v2 that I enjoy. Well under your budget.

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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    The 1,5 mm Parallel pen is imo for sure suitable for everyday writing (for me pens <= 1,5 Mm are no problem at all)
    The 2,4 mm Parallel maybe depending on your handwriting.
    The Parallel Pens are awesome italic nibs, the line quality is great, the line definition razor sharp (using good inks).



    Quote+Thomas+A.+Edison+by+https://www.deviantart.com/ptero-pterodactylus+on+@DeviantArt by Ptero Pterodactylus on DeviantArt

    (Pilot Parallel Pen 1.5 ..... Rohrer & Klingner Marlene)


    Quote Orson Welles by https://www.deviantart.com/ptero-pterodactylus on @DeviantArt by Ptero Pterodactylus on DeviantArt

    (TWSBI Mini 1.5 italic ..... Diamine Smoke on the Water)


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    Quote 023 by Ptero Pterodactylus, auf Flickr

    (Pelikan M205 Blue-Marbled - B EMF ..... Mystery ink #16 provided by Scooby 921)


    Quote 005 by Ptero Pterodactylus, auf Flickr

    (Pilot Parallel 2.4 mm ..... KWZ Azure #4)
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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    Depending on what and how to write on your your Calligraphy styles there are so many classic and traditional pens to choose.
    This is a sample of my penmanship done with an oblique pen.
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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    Some of my favourite pens I use for writing
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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    Always intrigued by these oblique nib holders. I was about the get one, when I realized that being a lefty they are completely useless for me

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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    @Yazeh
    Well being left-handed won't disrupt to be a Calligrapher.
    Have a look at what John - Master penman got to say to any left hander.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOjh0SkwyCM
    And again this video taught me something although I am a right handed...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gyb3r22n5k
    Have a try and there's nothing to loose. But to learn something.

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    [QUOTE=Cyril;318627]@Yazeh
    Well being left-handed won't disrupt to be a Calligrapher.

    Thanks for the link.
    What I meant was that the oblique pens are not suitable for left handed writers

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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    Have you ever tried left handed oblique pen ?
    In Calligraphy Masters " In YouTube series videos lot off them write very flawless writing with obliques holders , if I am not mistaken.
    There.s a technique and the angle of paper makes a big different.

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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyril View Post
    Have you ever tried left handed oblique pen ?
    In Calligraphy Masters " In YouTube series videos lot off them write very flawless writing with obliques holders , if I am not mistaken.
    There.s a technique and the angle of paper makes a big different.
    I didn't know there were left handed oblique pens, I'll check them out. My first vintage pen had an oblique nib, which was extremely comfortable to write with. I'll check the videos. I'm mostly self taught

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    Default Re: Calligraphy fountain pen with wide nib for written work?

    If you look at my holders in the above photo. They are all right-handed holders. and notice what side the nib is mounted.

    So your left handed one, the Flange for the nib should be on the other side.
    So get the grip of the pen so pen-nib is opposite side. So you write as usually but you have to turn the page for slanting of the letter 51- 55 degree for cursive hand.
    And in this picture I have 4 Zanarian type holders. Their Flanges can be slide out to replace with a left hand brass Flange. left flange is cut the other opposite way to fit the holders.
    Most of the time when you buy a holder you have an option select it is for left handed or Right-handed. Or you always can ask how you want your holder.
    It that simple. Self taught is the best way. It gives lot of opportunity to think to teach yourself by correcting the mistakes you do which is called learning.
    YOU ALWAY LEARN BY TEACHING YOURSELF BY CORRECTING YOUR SELF. that is what I do too.

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