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    Default About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    According to the rumor, there will be a new pen that will bear the name "Parker 51" to be released later this year.

    What do you all think?
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    Disappointed already?
    Indifferent?
    What is Parker 51?
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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    I am not crazy about the clip. I will have to see the rest in had to know for sure but to me the hood looks Parker 21ish more than 51.


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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    The high priced version has a gold nib, the cooking model does not, pen is not made of Lucite but resin, the jewel on the base model lacks lustre, filling system is not aerometric but cartidge.

    I can buy a fully restored proper 51 for the price of the base model, I passed on a NOS 51 last week for less than half the price of the new base model.

    There needs to be some honesty in the marketing of the 2020 51. The new pen is not a 51, it is a recreation by what looks like a Chinese maker on behalf of Parker.

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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    Screw on cap?
    Screw off!

    more faithful new 51 odes/crass ripoffs to be had for a few bucks.
    no shortage of originals for anybody who cares enough to write with one.

    I s'pose it's good for them to get this one on the market before the world ends though.

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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    Agree it seems more like a 21 (hooded but standard FP nib and feed). A number of unique designs set the 51 apart: the collector, the unusual nib shape, the filling system (either). This doesn't seem to have any of that.

    I know that there are modern Hero pens that use the same nib (I used one to replace a bad nib on a 21 super). Hero and/or WingSung has a modern vacumatic filling system. Not sure if they also use the 51 nib. I am actually more intrigued by these.

    I mean, I'm sure the new 51 isn't bad or anything. I wonder if it will increase or reduce demand (and prices) for the originals?

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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    If it had an aerometric or vacumatic filler, a vintage clip, a couple more nib choices and didn't have Chinese knockoff written all over it, maybe. But no thanks, I'd prefer to add to my collection of originals. Still looking for a good one in that eggplant colour.

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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    And another thing: the section ring looks wrong, and is that a screw on cap? Wrong!

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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    Quote Originally Posted by penwash View Post
    According to the rumor, there will be a new pen that will bear the name "Parker 51" to be released later this year.

    What do you all think?
    Excited?
    Disappointed already?
    Indifferent?
    What is Parker 51?
    I would be indifferent. 😐
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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    Quote Originally Posted by azkid View Post
    I mean, I'm sure the new 51 isn't bad or anything. I wonder if it will increase or reduce demand (and prices) for the originals?
    I suspect this will increase the demand for the original ones, once people realize how much better it is than this knock... er, I mean new edition.

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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Note View Post
    If it had an aerometric or vacumatic filler, a vintage clip, a couple more nib choices and didn't have Chinese knockoff written all over it, maybe. But no thanks, I'd prefer to add to my collection of originals. Still looking for a good one in that eggplant colour.
    I'd give them extra marks if they at least retain the aerometric.
    But C/C filler??? Who exactly are they trying to impress ?
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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    Quote Originally Posted by Linkinyeah View Post
    I am not crazy about the clip. I will have to see the rest in had to know for sure but to me the hood looks Parker 21ish more than 51.
    I think it looks like Parker Sonnet clip.
    The original Parker 21 clip is either a trough or a concave one, both very plain.

    Maybe you're thinking Parker 21 Super clip.
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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    Personally I think any reference to this new offering as a Parker 21 is to do an injustice to the Parker 21 Deluxe.
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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    Meh.

    I have, I think, three working 51s, and one , an aerometric, has a nib that I like. It's a decent pen, but has never become a favorite. Can't really get interested in a modern CC version. But tastes differ, obviously.

    Oh, and thanks for the information, anyway. It's interesting when companies try to "rediscover" one of their classics, whether I would buy one or not.
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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkinyeah View Post
    I am not crazy about the clip. I will have to see the rest in had to know for sure but to me the hood looks Parker 21ish more than 51.
    I think it looks like Parker Sonnet clip.
    The original Parker 21 clip is either a trough or a concave one, both very plain.

    Maybe you're thinking Parker 21 Super clip.
    I was comparing the hood to the 21, not the clip.


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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    Quote Originally Posted by Linkinyeah View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkinyeah View Post
    I am not crazy about the clip. I will have to see the rest in had to know for sure but to me the hood looks Parker 21ish more than 51.
    I think it looks like Parker Sonnet clip.
    The original Parker 21 clip is either a trough or a concave one, both very plain.

    Maybe you're thinking Parker 21 Super clip.
    I was comparing the hood to the 21, not the clip.
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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    Wouldn't go for this, even given the difficulty I am having getting an original 51. Too many deviations.
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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    I have one Parker 51 (original, aeromatic filler), and I like it. But I want one of the deluxe plum 2020 models when they come out, too. I like converter pens because I find them easier to clean and change inks. Okay, I also like lever fill pens and eyedropper fill pens and piston fill pens. I just like fountain pens, and I'm at the stage where I'm interested in all of them. In another two to three years I'll probably have settled down a little, but right now I'm interested in everything.

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    Default Re: About that new Parker 51 (2020 edition)

    Parker - Does not make a 51
    Crowd - Parker, why don't you make a 51 instead of letting everyone else do it?
    Parker - OK, we'll make a top of the range one then.
    Crowd - Too expensive. Would rather buy three vintage 51s for that.
    Parker - All right then, we'll make a more affordable one.
    Crowd - Urgh, the quality isn't half as good as the vintage ones. We'll stick with Lucite thanks.
    Parker - Well, all right, how about one with features you can't actually get with a vintage 51.
    Crowd - No! Now it's not a 51 at all. My vintage 51s will do me.
    Parker -

    In short, where Parker's gone wrong is 80 years ago when they made the ruddy things so indestructible in the first place. Of course, if they hadn't, the 51 would not be the icon is is today and nobody'd be wanting them to remake it anyway. Yep, Parker's on a hiding to nothing with this one, all right.

    Anyway, I can see the screw cap and cartridge fill appealing to people who might otherwise not be much interested in the 51, but currently the most interesting take on a modern 51 is still the Wing Sung 601 I think.
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