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    Default Does anyone use phenol in their inks?

    I've heard so many people say that Sailor uses phenol in their inks with no real source other than hearing it on the internet that I'm wondering if it's all just rumors at this point. Sailor inks certainly have a strong smell, but it reminds me of tempura paint's older brother, and I would never describe it as "sickly sweet", which is apparently what phenol is supposed to smell like. But I've never smelled phenol before, and you know what, maybe there's some kind of chemical reaction that goes on in the ink to make it smell different. Who knows?

    So it would be helpful if anyone could chip in who:
    1. Has an MSDS or similar document from Sailor showing that they do or don't have phenol in their inks.
    2. Has smelled phenol before, and thinks that Sailor inks definitely (or definitely don't) smell like phenol.
    3. Adds or has added phenol to an ink before and noticed that the smell changed somehow and became more similar to what Sailor inks smell like, or that the smell isn't like what Sailor inks smell like at all.

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    Default Re: Does anyone use phenol in their inks?

    There have been several threads about the use of phenol in inks. On FPG you might like to look at this thread that talks about SITB and that will also give you a link to another thread about biocide in inks here

    I have bought the Natural Pigments version of phenol from ebay and on the recommendation of others I've added it to my Organics Studio ink bottles. It's not so much the phenol smell that I'm concerned with, but rather trying to ensure the ink doesn't get SITB. For me it was a case of better safe than sorry at the time. I've also added a few drops to a couple of older bottles of J.Herbin ink.

    There are probably more older threads about phenol on the other place if you search for "phenol" in their search box. I also found this one
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    Default Re: Does anyone use phenol in their inks?

    Thanks, Chrissy. Since you have experience adding phenol to inks, would you say it smells similar to Sailor inks? Or is it a different smell?

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    Default Re: Does anyone use phenol in their inks?

    I've smelled one of my bottles of Sailor Jentle ink, one of my bottles of older Quink ink with solv-x and one of my bottles of phenol treated OS ink. I can confirm they don't smell the same.
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    Default Re: Does anyone use phenol in their inks?

    I have a bottle of Skrip Blue Black that at one stage appeared to have sitb. Managed to by some carbolic acid / phenol from a local chemical company. Took a few crystals mixed with water in a test tube. Added +- 0,3ml to the ink. Shook it up and within in a day or two the sitb was gone.
    Warning! This chemical is toxic to humans.

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    Default Re: Does anyone use phenol in their inks?

    Quote Originally Posted by picautomaton View Post
    ...the sitb was gone....
    There is no "gone." It's been modified and is still in the bottle.

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    Default Re: Does anyone use phenol in their inks?

    So, never took a whif of my ink!

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    Default Re: Does anyone use phenol in their inks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    So, never took a whif of my ink!
    LOL! Nor have I.

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    Default Re: Does anyone use phenol in their inks?

    I hadn't particularly taken a whiff of any of mine until today
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    Default Re: Does anyone use phenol in their inks?

    I smell some of mine (De Atramentis - Tobacco (scented) and KenTaur - Cedar Wood (scented) )...

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