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I agree with Reprieve's point on M100 size being a huge pen with a springy nib, I like it much better than my M800 nib.
Also, on the vintage OB nibs, they are unbeatable. I thought I would only use the F nib for all my Peli pens, but I was blown away when I got a vintage 400 OB nib. It is so awesome that I couldn't put down my pen. The good news is M400 and M600 nibs can be swapped between the two models.
See the pictures below (quick snapped from my phone, sorry about the quality). Pelikan 620 with its original modern two tone M600 nib, and Pelikan 200 clear demo with a single tone vintage 400 OB nib. Then I switched the nibs in these pens, they fit perfectly.
Tracy Lee (July 15th, 2013)
Tracy, Pelikan M800 brown tortoise which is best choice. This is a 2013 LE Souveran. But if you want the flex nib, go for the vintage Pelikans.
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Y'all have been so helpful on this question. I am armed with great information now that will help me see what I can find. Thank you sooooo much!!
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This photo is an excellent example why I don't own a drawer full of Pelikans. Note how much more space there is between the threads on the Twisbi grip section compared to the extra short distance on the Pelikan! While the diameter of the pen gets larger as the numbers go up that distance doesn't change much. Having to hold a pen on the threads doesn't bother some people though. At least at the pen show you will be able to hold it before you buy it.
Kenmc, that's a constant gripe of mine too! I can get by holding pens that low but prefer gripping them a bit higher up on the section.
I'm planning on putting up with it since I like Pelikans, but I wish more pen companies would make the sections longer (so far, other
than TWSBI, Aurora and Waterman have long sections, I think Dupont and Faber-Castell do too). I've found that one solution is either
have your grip overlap with the threads, which doesn't hurt, or many people grip the pen barrel just past the threads (not a problem if
the pen barrel diameter is small like the M400).
I promised myself an m800 for finishing writing a novel. The novel is done, but I can't bring myself to spend the money.
I will say that the m200 demonstrator is pretty nice. The only drawback so far is that it was stained slightly by Iroshizuku Yama-budo. Nevertheless, it has some flex, it works well, and it feels all right in the hand.
Majesty and Ductus have long section.
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Ductus is a converter pen and different nib.
Because a bad proposition deserves another. If you put the stress point so far out people will complaint about cracking. No matter how big the cap band is normal stress will always crack the plastic, either on the cap or the barrel. Unless everything is made of metal, like the Ductus or Majesty and other similar design such as GvFC Classic.
I'm no Pelikan apologist, but I like them simply because they learn from experience and keep the tradition alive. Their design evolve though that, and not from fad whims.
Agreed. I have small hands so the size of the section doesn't bother me. And I find the Pelikan threads pretty darn forgiving, I honestly don't notice them and couldn't tell you if they touch my fingers or hand while using the pen. The pens are so light and well balanced and fit my hand so well I honestly don't know. They are just so darn CONSISTENT. From my 400NN that's 60 years old ot my brand new 400 white tortoise. They could have been made the same day as each other. THAT keeps me coming back to Pelikan.
Hmm, is this part of the TWSBI cracking problem? I'd assumed it was just the clear plastic, but perhaps design plays into it as well?
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The 400NN is a VERY good Pelikan. But then most of them are. The fine nib will not be silky smooth on the paper, or at least likely isn't. The 50s era nibs did not have the large iridium ball tips of today's nibs. Instead they had small amounts of very flat iridium. So the finer the nib the more "sharp" it will feel. That doesn't mean it isn't a good nib, just don't expect a ROUND writing tip. Just don't flex the nib too much. Those nibs can give very nice minor line variation
The very BEST of the nibs from that era is probably the OBB. If you can find one you WILL pay a premium for it, but it pretty much superior to anything else I've ever written with. (I mean that.)
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Ok, thank you - I am not so much interested in flex, a little is nice but not an issue, what is an issue is that today's medium nibs tend to be too wide - I cramp my writing, should have been a lefty, anyway a medium puts down too much ink and is too wide for everyday writing cwood826.wordpress.com shows a sample of my writing. I am at the point that I want one good pen in the 150 - 200 range. so I am looking, I like the idea of a pen from 1959.
Cwood
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The fine may work really well for you if your writing is small. Big nibs have actually trained me to write larger so can't help much there!
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Thanks for the input - I don't have a store or show close by to try different pens -- so many choices........
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