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    Oh my, it never dawned on me that I hadn't posted in this thread! (I uploaded to the new pen thread). Last September my wife surprised me by going in cahoots with dear Deb and Eachan of Goodwriters Pens, and gifted me for my birthday. Unique to my collection now are this handsome Mabie Todd Swan 0160 Leverless pen (UK, c1940s) and an earlier Todd pencil from the US branch. The chatelaine pencil has the loveliest hand engraving pattern.

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    Default Re: Swan Mabie Todd Pens.

    That's a lovely looking leverless...how big is it? The coding has always confused me and I guess it's different with these than the later streamlined 4XXX models
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    Quote Originally Posted by fountainpenkid View Post
    That's a lovely looking leverless...how big is it? The coding has always confused me and I guess it's different with these than the later streamlined 4XXX models
    It's a smaller pen, measuring 4-1/8" capped. Nice, delicate writer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fountainpenkid View Post
    That's a lovely looking leverless...how big is it? The coding has always confused me and I guess it's different with these than the later streamlined 4XXX models
    Hi,

    how big? Here some Swan's compared to a modern Pelikan M2xx and a Lamy2000:

    1920's Swan SF 230/60
    1930's Swan SM 205/60
    1940's Swan 0160
    1950's Swan 3220
    Pelikan M250
    Lamy 2000



    Indeed they changed the codes:
    This 0160 once followed the practically same L212/60 and was replaced by the steamline 4260...

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    Default Re: Swan Mabie Todd Pens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Oh my, it never dawned on me that I hadn't posted in this thread! (I uploaded to the new pen thread). Last September my wife surprised me by going in cahoots with dear Deb and Eachan of Goodwriters Pens, and gifted me for my birthday. Unique to my collection now are this handsome Mabie Todd Swan 0160 Leverless pen (UK, c1940s) and an earlier Todd pencil from the US branch. The chatelaine pencil has the loveliest hand engraving pattern.

    I am blessed by these objects from the past, and the beautiful people who gifted me with them...
    Very nice, Jon.

    The pencil is a beauty. :-)
    A leverless like this is one of the best Swan's, fantastic nibs, nice understated look, great balance...

    Enjoy and best wishes
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    Default Re: Swan Mabie Todd Pens.

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    I have a few Swan Pens. Here is one.

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    Default Re: Swan Mabie Todd Pens.

    You've got a very nice example!

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    Default Re: Swan Mabie Todd Pens.

    I'm going next week to see a Swan Mabie Todd self filler fountain pen, model SF2, in red ripple body and with a 14ct gold number 2 nib. Asking price is 95, what should I look for? I don't have any experience with semi-flex nibs.

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    Default Re: Swan Mabie Todd Pens.

    The SF2 is a fairly delicate pen, especially in mottled hard rubber (Swan didn't do red ripple) so look for cap lip cracks. There may be some fading. There are slight differences in versions: some have narrow cap bands, others broad, some come with clips fitted, others without or with accommodation clips. I find the SF1 a bit too slender but the SF2 is more comfortable in the hand. An MHR SF2 is a beautiful pen and that's a good price if all is well.

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    Default Re: Swan Mabie Todd Pens.

    Quote Originally Posted by eachan View Post
    The SF2 is a fairly delicate pen, especially in mottled hard rubber (Swan didn't do red ripple) so look for cap lip cracks. There may be some fading. There are slight differences in versions: some have narrow cap bands, others broad, some come with clips fitted, others without or with accommodation clips. I find the SF1 a bit too slender but the SF2 is more comfortable in the hand. An MHR SF2 is a beautiful pen and that's a good price if all is well.
    Thank you for reply.

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    https://s.www.jtdirectory.com//locat...o_3224527.jpeg
    https://s.www.jtdirectory.com//locat...o_3224528.jpeg

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    Default Re: Swan Mabie Todd Pens.

    Beautiful pen. The combination of inserted clip and bandless cap is unusual. There is a little fading as you can see in the final shot but I wouldn't regard that as a serious detraction for a near hundred year old pen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eachan View Post
    Beautiful pen. The combination of inserted clip and bandless cap is unusual. There is a little fading as you can see in the final shot but I wouldn't regard that as a serious detraction for a near hundred year old pen.
    Oh, yes, I didn't notice that. But still a good looking pen.

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    Default Re: Swan Mabie Todd Pens.

    Quote Originally Posted by usk15 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eachan View Post
    The SF2 is a fairly delicate pen, especially in mottled hard rubber (Swan didn't do red ripple) so look for cap lip cracks. There may be some fading. There are slight differences in versions: some have narrow cap bands, others broad, some come with clips fitted, others without or with accommodation clips. I find the SF1 a bit too slender but the SF2 is more comfortable in the hand. An MHR SF2 is a beautiful pen and that's a good price if all is well.
    Thank you for reply.

    These are the pictures for the actual pen:

    https://s.www.jtdirectory.com//locat...o_3224526.jpeg
    https://s.www.jtdirectory.com//locat...o_3224527.jpeg
    https://s.www.jtdirectory.com//locat...o_3224528.jpeg
    Hi,

    nice pen, but the nib will need to get adjusted... the left tine is bent downwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schaumburg_Swan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by usk15 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eachan View Post
    The SF2 is a fairly delicate pen, especially in mottled hard rubber (Swan didn't do red ripple) so look for cap lip cracks. There may be some fading. There are slight differences in versions: some have narrow cap bands, others broad, some come with clips fitted, others without or with accommodation clips. I find the SF1 a bit too slender but the SF2 is more comfortable in the hand. An MHR SF2 is a beautiful pen and that's a good price if all is well.
    Thank you for reply.

    These are the pictures for the actual pen:

    https://s.www.jtdirectory.com//locat...o_3224526.jpeg
    https://s.www.jtdirectory.com//locat...o_3224527.jpeg
    https://s.www.jtdirectory.com//locat...o_3224528.jpeg
    Hi,

    nice pen, but the nib will need to get adjusted... the left tine is bent downwards.

    Jens
    Thank you for pointing this out, didn't noticed!
    I will have the chance to dip test the pen.

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    Beautiful pen! The rubber pens are really nice to write with. Its amazing that after all this time you smell them and they still smell like rubber!PXL_20220115_215316080.jpgPXL_20220115_215415659.jpg
    Mine must then be an SF1?

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