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    Default Re: Help on picking first gold nib Pelikan?

    It's going great!

    The pen wasn't NOS but it is in quite good shape. Someone took good care of it.

    The nib had some issues with upstrokes (it was showing a user-unique wear pattern, I believe) but I have it writing really nicely now and it flows nicely with Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Black which is such a well-behaved ink.

    The pen is really enjoyable to write with and feels really satisfying to hold, though I've been trying to use up remaining ink in a couple other pens so I haven't been using it as much as I'd like. It is next in the rotation, however and I look forward to it.

    The feedback is very unusual compared to many pens. I think someone here mentioned they feel like a thick pencil lead on paper. That's spot on. I really don't have any other pens I can think of with this sort of feedback. It is somehow smooth yet controlled.

    Only downside is the cap top (finial? Tassie?) is cracked in a couple of spots. I have bent the clip out relieving pressure on it so it at least stays put. I may see about getting one in better shape. It would be nice to be able to clip this in a shirt pocket since it is such a perfect compact length.

    Very happy I took the plunge. Thanks again everyone!

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    Default Re: Help on picking first gold nib Pelikan?

    Glad you like it. My first vintage Pelikan was a 140 as well. Fine nib. I purchased it from Rick Propas. Paid a bit more but over three years in now (he restores and includes a two year warranty) never needed any service. The 140 has had an almost exclusive diet of Pelikan 4001 Blue Black and is always inked.

    The 400NN is an EF and a wonderful writer as well. Got it on Ebay from a European seller for less than $100. I have had it for about a year now. Currently inked with Pelikan Blue Black. But has seen more different inks than the 140.

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    Default Re: Help on picking first gold nib Pelikan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pterodactylus View Post
    You canít go wrong with a 50Ďs Pelikan.
    Imho the 50Ďs Pelikans (100, 140 and 400) are some of the best pens ever made.
    Donˋt expect flexible nibs, most of them are semi-flex (some only springy).
    The building quality is awesome, if you donít have 2 left hands and have a bit experience, repairs should not be unsolvable.

    Pelikan nib units are known, and awesome.
    If they have the transparent nib unit collar the collar might become brittle and has to be replaced (replacements are available).

    Piston seals might also needs to be replaced (most have synthetic ones, early ones might still have cork seals) (replacements available)

    Choose which size and design you like.

    Also the modern pens are good.
    Personally I donˋt really like the M600 nails (own 2, writes good, no complains but they are hard nails).
    The M800 and M1000 are too big for my taste.


    I agree 100% with this advice. One of my first Pels was a 1950s tortoise set that had a beautiful OM nib which I still love and reach for often, even YEARS after acquiring it on Pentrace. The old Pelikans just never get "old"!
    Last edited by Bisquitlips; November 26th, 2020 at 12:35 AM.

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    For sure, I can see it never getting old for me too. I deeply appreciate the advice pointing me towards this phenomenal pen.

    I've been using my 140 as my daily driver for the past couple weeks and though I should provide an update. Bottom line: Wow. What a wonderful writing experience.

    I can't get over how different the nib feels from any of the dozens of vintage pens I have owned. Every time I use it I am forced to pause briefly with amazement, and then continue with great satisfaction. I know this sounds utterly ridiculous and corny. I certainly didn't expect such an intense reaction.

    Oh, I was doing an ink journal entry for a new ink and looking back through my notes, I found out it was 1950s Pelikan with OM that I was originally wowed me at last year's Pelikan Hub. I'm 99% sure it was a 140 based on my visual recollection of the shape.

    Anyway I will continue using this for my daily until it runs out. Then I will probably refill it and continue awhile longer.

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    Default Re: Help on picking first gold nib Pelikan?

    Quote Originally Posted by azkid View Post
    I can't get over how different the nib feels from any of the dozens of vintage pens I have owned. Every time I use it I am forced to pause briefly with amazement, and then continue with great satisfaction. I know this sounds utterly ridiculous and corny. I certainly didn't expect such an intense reaction.
    Yeah, the nibs are one of the reasons why I got hooked on vintage Pelikans and really haven't bought any other pens after that (unless they have been ridiculous bargains and otherwise to my liking like the Parker 51 Aerometrics).

    Those nibs combined with everything else in that package... just wow. I mean, what is there not to like? <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by azkid View Post
    For sure, I can see it never getting old for me too. I deeply appreciate the advice pointing me towards this phenomenal pen.

    I've been using my 140 as my daily driver for the past couple weeks and though I should provide an update. Bottom line: Wow. What a wonderful writing experience.

    I can't get over how different the nib feels from any of the dozens of vintage pens I have owned. Every time I use it I am forced to pause briefly with amazement, and then continue with great satisfaction. I know this sounds utterly ridiculous and corny. I certainly didn't expect such an intense reaction.

    Oh, I was doing an ink journal entry for a new ink and looking back through my notes, I found out it was 1950s Pelikan with OM that I was originally wowed me at last year's Pelikan Hub. I'm 99% sure it was a 140 based on my visual recollection of the shape.

    Anyway I will continue using this for my daily until it runs out. Then I will probably refill it and continue awhile longer.
    Congratulations!
    Over many years, I have found several pens that can elicit from me, the similar reaction as you described above, the "pause to admire".

    That reaction is (to me) not ridiculous nor it is corny, it's just one of the things in this hobby that we get to enjoy.

    And yes, one of those pens are the Pelikan 140.
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    Update: my Pelikan 140 finally ran out of ink yesterday.

    I've been using it exclusively for work for over two months.

    Ok, I haven't been writing all that much. But still. Aside: it survived weeks of disuse over the holidays without drying out and it started right up again on the first stroke. Nice.

    As I predicted in Nov, I refilled it with more Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Black and will keep using it. It's too nice to stop.

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    Default Re: Help on picking first gold nib Pelikan?

    The M800 Medium is a lovely smooth nib and a good all rounder

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    Default Re: Help on picking first gold nib Pelikan?

    I have an M200 fine nib, but am considering an M400 or M600, new. Can I expect the same line width with the gold as the steel? And which would you all recommend? Is there any major difference between the 400 and the 600, besides the size of the pen? I like the idea of the bigger nib.

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    Default Re: Help on picking first gold nib Pelikan?

    In honesty? I'm not a fan of the modern gold nibs. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that if it has to be a modern pen, I prefer the steel nibs. If you can get an 'old style' (ie pre-97) M series, you'll get a decent nib. If you go for a vintage 10x/140/400x you're likely to get a fabulous nib. Anything post '97 will be a slightly overtipped, very pretty and very functional nib with no character at all. They're great as the basis for a special grind, mainly because there is so much tipping that there's plenty of material to work with, but other than that, I personally wouldn't bother, unless it was a real bargain. Even then, I'd probably be looking to swap out the nib with something more interesting.

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    Default Re: Help on picking first gold nib Pelikan?

    Quote Originally Posted by azkid View Post
    ÖSee, I like my M205 except it is a bit persnickety about ink and the nib behaves kind of oddly. I go back and forth on how I feel about itÖ
    Just curious, what ink made the 205 misbehave?

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    Default Re: Help on picking first gold nib Pelikan?

    I generally agree with mizgeorge. Vintage Pelikans (anything up to 1965) will likely write with more character than a modern Pelikan (post 1965). Mind you, a vintage DEF will write like the rigid extra fine itís supposed to be. The most noticeable difference is between vintage and modern obliques.

    Iíve had a few of the early modern Pelikan nibs. They didnít do much for me with the exception of one that got a Spencerian mod from John Mottishaw.

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    I like the steel nib on the M200. I just want a nib that will write smoothly and give me even lines. A nib with character....I think that is something that would be different to everyone and Iím not sure what my preference would be. Of course Iíd like to find a nice vintage version, but online buying is risky. I donít want to spend a ton of money only to find out when I get it that I donít like the way it writes. Finding a vintage pen that pleases me would probably be best done at a pen show, where there would be a lot of options and a chance to sample the pens first.

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    Default Re: Help on picking first gold nib Pelikan?

    50ís 400 ++. There is an excellent seller on FPN who has 400s and 400nnson a regular basis.
    Last edited by bhbarto; May 14th, 2021 at 11:30 AM.

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