I was thinking the same. Other German companies can offer free shipping on relatively small orders, so we know it's not a matter of cost. I think this is a non profit, so a little more would be acceptable, but 100 € feels like a snub. Did they really intend to be perceived as having such an attitude?
Indeed.
Two more by Thom, the top ig expert of our german fp forum (Penexchange.de):
https://www.kalligraphie-shop.com/Ei...ml-in-2-Farben.
Reddish(!) or Blue-Black. Haven't tried yet...
He also did a green one:
https://www.penexchange.de/forum_neu...end&start=2205
Best
Jens
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Thanks Jens... From what I gathered thanks to google translate that these iron gall or Eisengallustinte aren't as waterproof as others......
Stipula also has also 4 ferrogallic inks.....
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I dropped them an email, right now. Maybe if others send them emails too, they might become aware that there is an ink market outside of Germany....
Here is their email:
order@gutenberg-shop.de
Don't bother to email. The price is right. They said it might be even higher depending what I order
Salix always looked wimpy to me. I've used ESRRI for almost 10 years. When I want a dark, permanent ink, that's the one I use for IG. My bottle is almost gone so I might try some others before re-ordering, just to see what's out there.
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and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."
~ Benjamin Franklin
Yazeh (December 8th, 2020)
Salix is wimpy? Well I'm glad to hear that from a reliable source, because that's what I've decided based on a lot looking at posted swabs. I was almost going to order a bottle based on some people's insistence that it's a strong color. Now I won't.
I like Scabiosa. It's not exactly strong, it's a bit dusty, but I think it's a classic old fashioned color. I've been trying the KWZ inks lately, and so far they're satisfying my need for a strong and saturated look.
KWZ IG green #4 - Perhaps a little too green on some papers, but gets darker, and is almost black on darker parts.
KWZ IG red - Very dark, and on my cotton papers in fact brown black after a minute or two. You can see the red if you only put down a dry line.
KWZ IG blue black - Very strong traditional blue black. This is an archival quality IG which is much stronger than any other KWZ IG. I change my tastes over time, but this one is definitely a keeper for me.
Yazeh (December 8th, 2020)
I am a bleeding idiot (and I was typing before the require intake of caffeine. I meant Scabiosa, dusty grey/lavender, vintage-looking ink. I'm very sorry for the mix-up. I don't have a hard take on Salix, but for a dark blue-black IG, I still have been sticking with ESRRI.
I've got a few IG inks from KWZ as well, including Gr. #4, but I just don't tend to use them that often. The fact is, I only use those 'type' of inks (waterproofness, mainly) for external correspondence (postcards and addressing) and for that my two constant, regular inks are Namiki Blue and Sailor Kiwa-guro (pigment black).
Sorry for derailing and offering bad info. I've corrected my initial post.
"When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick;
and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."
~ Benjamin Franklin
I love Salix - I have at least one pen always inked with it for when I need permanent/waterproof (I fill in a lot of customs forms!) and really enjoy watching the colour change. I like ESS, but I found it deteriorated faster than the Salix, and I don't use enough to be dealing with sludge in the bottom of the bottle, let alone in a pen.
It's what puts me off getting some of the KWZ ig inks - I think the colours are wonderful, but I'm not sure if they don't also have a limited shelf life, and I don't get through the fun colours quickly enough to risk it.
@mizgeorge, you might like this information about KWZ inks.
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