Canceling Spotify

[Chuck Naill]

Given the high intelligence factor here, I assume everyone knows about celebrities pulling their material off Spotify.

Thoughts?

I am not affiliated with, nor do I listen to Spotify.

[manoeuver]

My Spotify subscription is maybe the best money I spend every month.

The algos have helped me discover dozens if not hundreds of artists I'd never have heard of otherwise.

Last year I listened to over 3000 different artists! All gems? Of course not, but to have all that music available is a very real kind of wealth.

I believe we're living in a truly golden age of creativity, and streaming platforms are a critical piece of the puzzle.

The technology for producing music is so easily accessible nowadays, anyone with the inclination can try their hand at making music.
The results vary wildly of course, but some of it is mindbendingly creative.

Services like Spotify and others mean even very niched-down music can find an audience. Some of my favorite music has very few listeners.

It's also like getting back all the CDs I sold in college (good and bad.)

As for these legacy Boomer artists pulling their music, I mean, whatever. I don't care what Neil Young thinks, don't care what he does.

Demanding censorship is the new fad in virtue signaling. Unfortunate but hardly surprising.

To see artists demanding censorship isn't any more stupefying than half the other stuff happening since covid, I guess.

My only problem with Spotify is the raw deal they give artists. I balance that by buying my favorite music via Bandcamp, it's a very easy way to support artists financially.

[Chuck Naill]

Yeah, I am the same with Neil Young and most. They never had my attention.

I discovered "new acoustic music" in the mid '80's when I was learning to play guitar and was able to successfully avoid pop music my entire life. I mean, I recognize his name and voice, but other than that, not a groupie sort. Him pulling his stuff was sort of funny although I am not a fan of the focus of his protest if he's telling lies.

[manoeuver]

Yeah, I am the same with Neil Young and most. They never had my attention.

I discovered "new acoustic music" in the mid '80's when I was learning to play guitar and was able to successfully avoid pop music my entire life. I mean, I recognize his name and voice, but other than that, not a groupie sort. Him pulling his stuff was sort of funny although I am not a fan of the focus of his protest if he's telling lies.

So, if you made a playlist of the 'new acoustic music' you enjoyed in the 80s, Spotify would generate what it calls playlist radio based on the content on the playlist.
You can also find a favorite album and go to album radio and find a lot of new artists and records.

I've discovered many, many artists through playlist and album radio. In my experience it works especially well with less popular artists and albums-- I think if you're listening to popular music the algos will send you to more popular music..

Before I learned to use Spotify I was mostly listening to the music I discovered when I was in college. Literally the same stuff for close to 20 years. I think that situation is widespread.

I actually made a video on my Spotify method, I should get that up on youtube already.

[Chuck Naill]

Yeah, I am the same with Neil Young and most. They never had my attention.

I discovered "new acoustic music" in the mid '80's when I was learning to play guitar and was able to successfully avoid pop music my entire life. I mean, I recognize his name and voice, but other than that, not a groupie sort. Him pulling his stuff was sort of funny although I am not a fan of the focus of his protest if he's telling lies.

So, if you made a playlist of the 'new acoustic music' you enjoyed in the 80s, Spotify would generate what it calls playlist radio based on the content on the playlist.
You can also find a favorite album and go to album radio and find a lot of new artists and records.

I've discovered many, many artists through playlist and album radio. In my experience it works especially well with less popular artists and albums-- I think if you're listening to popular music the algos will send you to more popular music..

Before I learned to use Spotify I was mostly listening to the music I discovered when I was in college. Literally the same stuff for close to 20 years. I think that situation is widespread.

I actually made a video on my Spotify method, I should get that up on youtube already.

That's true, but I just use Amazon Music or play YouTube. Generally, I listen to my local public radio since that play mostly classical.

[dneal]

That's true, but I just use Amazon Music or play YouTube.

YouTube!!???!! LOL!!!

[dneal]

Back on topic though...

A woke septuagenarian with an over-inflated ego and misconstrued sense of self-importance is mad at an intelligent, curious, witty 50 year old for considering ideas and opinions said septuagenarian doesn't like.

Sounds familiar.

[manoeuver]

That's true, but I just use Amazon Music or play YouTube.

YouTube!!???!! LOL!!!

Youtube is a fanTAStic place to find music!

It's got a lot of stuff Spotify and the other streamers won't ever have-- unofficial stuff, bootlegs, demos, weird edits.

It's different because the content isn't organized like it is on the streaming services. Fortunately the search works exceptionally well.

[Chuck Naill]

For example, I listen and play old time fiddle. YouTube is a wonderful resource for learning new tunes.

[Chuck Naill]

I don’t, like @dneal, use YouTube to see what Steve Bannon thinks .

[dneal]

That's true, but I just use Amazon Music or play YouTube.

YouTube!!???!! LOL!!!

Youtube is a fanTAStic place to find music!

It's got a lot of stuff Spotify and the other streamers won't ever have-- unofficial stuff, bootlegs, demos, weird edits.

It's different because the content isn't organized like it is on the streaming services. Fortunately the search works exceptionally well.

I don't disagree. But I also never claimed to avoid YouTube, nor mocked, nor criticized it; or the people who found things worth considering there. Not everyone can say the same

Probably has something to do with hypocrisy, and calling it out.

[Chuck Naill]

Or to find ways to support why I don’t get vaccines or to find what Fauci has done .

[dneal]

Or deflect when I got my hypocritical ass handed to me (again...).

manouver is right. You suck at this.

[TSherbs]

I don't much care about artists coming and going on platforms. They can do what they want. Listeners can do what they want. The platforms can do what they want.

I don't listen to nearly as much music any more. I have been growing to prefer relative quiet.

[kazoolaw]

I wander through a variety of places, including YouTube, to find music that is new to me. I have an irrational dislike of paying for subcription services because keep thinking I'll stumble across the 21st century equivalant to free underground fm radio.
But I long ago stopped looking to musicians as beacons of moral philosophy.

[manoeuver]

I don't much care about artists coming and going on platforms. They can do what they want. Listeners can do what they want. The platforms can do what they want.

I don't listen to nearly as much music any more. I have been growing to prefer relative quiet.

if not music, silence.
true silence is extremely rare, and better than any music.

[manoeuver]

[QUOTE=TSherbs;353710]

Absolute silence though can be quite disturbing. There were reports of people becoming disoriented on spending time in an anechoic chamber.

Float Tank! try it, total disorientation, it's awesome.

[Chip]

For example, I listen and play old time fiddle. YouTube is a wonderful resource for learning new tunes.

What style? For years, I accompanied fiddlers and played in old time string bands, Irish groups, acoustic swing bands, and the like.

One of my friends, Shelley Clark, won the National Old Time Fiddle Contest at Weiser, Idaho. I helped her get started, and went to Weiser as moral support, but never made it past the parking lot. Eventually, she met a really superb guitarist, Kelly Rubrecht, and married him. They had a band based in Jackson, Wyoming, for years.

Here's an old pic of Shelley and Kelly, playing in a high-school gym.

[Chuck Naill]

For example, I listen and play old time fiddle. YouTube is a wonderful resource for learning new tunes.

What style? For years, I accompanied fiddlers and played in old time string bands, Irish groups, acoustic swing bands, and the like.

One of my friends, Shelley Clark, won the National Old Time Fiddle Contest at Weiser, Idaho. I helped her get started, and went to Weiser as moral support, but never made it past the parking lot. Eventually, she met a really superb guitarist, Kelly Rubrecht, and married him. They had a band based in Jackson, Wyoming, for years.

Here's an old pic of Shelley and Kelly, playing in a high-school gym.

Old time. I was able to spend some time with Clyde Davenport and fiddle maker J. W Green.

[Chip]

Old time. I was able to spend some time with Clyde Davenport and fiddle maker J. W Green.

Lucky you! For years, almost every party I went to had a circle of musicians, so I met quite a few good ones. Once I was confident enough to perform, we started a series of bands, ranging from old-timey trios (fiddle, banjo, guitar) that played square dances, reels, and such to swing and bluegrass bands (fiddle, guitar, mandolin, bass, banjo, dobro or National resonator, harmonica, etc.)

When I spent most of a season fighting wildfires, I saved enough to buy a big power amp, Bose 800 pro speakers, a mixing board, and a bunch of mics. So, from then on, we had a great acoustic sound system and got better gigs: old-style dance halls, ski resort clubs, local bars that actually paid a decent amount with a cut of the cover charge. With an old-time and swing band, The Hot Pants Buckaroos, I talked a club owner into a steady gig, his worst night, a Tuesday. In a month, the place was packed with people dancing in the aisles. Between that and the Forest Service seasonal job, I made a decent living.

The fiddler in the Buckaroos, Lawrence Smart, went to a violin-making school and started his own luthier shop. He's done well, with his instruments played by Chris Thile, Mike Marshall, Matt Flinner and Darrell Scott, among others.

https://www.lawrencesmart.com/

I just sank back into obscurity.