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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Z View Post
    That is my favorite cartoon strip. I have several of the books, and still laugh at them. He's still doing the strip, which you can find on line. His series with Opus and Shroedinger's cat is classic. Come to think of it, so is the series where Donald Trump and Bill the Cat's brains are swapped.
    Could you please provide links to these two series? The dates would be enough.

    I loved that comic strip. Now I have 30 years to catch up on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaliuzhkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Z View Post
    That is my favorite cartoon strip. I have several of the books, and still laugh at them. He's still doing the strip, which you can find on line. His series with Opus and Shroedinger's cat is classic. Come to think of it, so is the series where Donald Trump and Bill the Cat's brains are swapped.
    Could you please provide links to these two series? The dates would be enough.

    I loved that comic strip. Now I have 30 years to catch up on.
    I remember that storyline. Bill redeveloped his litter box into a high-rise Trump Dump.

    Not the whole series but a selection with commentary here.

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    An effort to be made by whom specifically? On what basis ‘should’ he/she/it have both the responsibility and the right to do so with the content?

    Frankly, I'd love to see a free-standing fountain pen repair forum that's apart from FPG and FPN.
    I'd love to see a free-standing, fire-breathing giant Bender statue, but that isn't enough reason to either make it happen myself, or expect it to happen as a result of someone else's investment of effort and resources.

    The idea would be to take the archives of FPN Repair, FPG Repair, and maybe the old Repair area of Lion & Pen and put them together in a single website/forum that is dedicated to repair. That way if something like FPN or FPG goes down, the material is not lost.
    Just because there is — or was — largely unrestricted public access to something in the ‘now’, it doesn't automatically follow that the thing is a public asset to which the user community can claim ownership rights, or perpetual licence to use, archive and/or replicate in the name of ‘the public good’, especially when the supposed benefit only pertains to a niche, narrow interest area (that current card-carrying enthusiasts would love to nurture and grow, but expect to be underwritten by someone else). Even if the funding and/or content from which an information asset is created was largely crowd-sourced in the first place, it still doesn't automatically or inherent make the end result public domain or ‘free’ for all to do as they like. You, and we, don't own the pen repair forum(s) or the valuable information contained therein, any more than you and we own privately run, but open-to-the-public, museums housing valuable artefacts and intellectual property (e.g. all the analysis and commentary that go with the exhibits) that some would consider it to be cultural riches squandered and a loss to the public should such museums get sold, closed or burnt down.

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    This would require the permission of the people involved in all those posts. Not saying it isn't a grand idea, but collating information from multiple sites is not the same as people signing up for an account at a particular site and agreeing to have their posts become public.
    Exactly.

    (Just to be clear, this isn't a criticism directed at you, Jon.)

    Too many seem to fancy themselves ‘big picture’ people, activists with initiative, or thought leaders who know best how to enrich or protect the ‘communities’ with whom they identify (but secretly define as only those who are like-minded, not just joined by common practical interests but have vastly different personal values) — and then expect support will come from backers and doers to realise their vision after they've contributed their ideas in some sort of imagined compact.

    I got a good laugh out of this. I remember your inane screeds from FPN, and you haven't lost your touch, I see.
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    So sad to see that they're still down. Yikes!

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    I hope people will exercise some restraint when they open. Last thing a site restore like this needs is a massive hit of traffic and piles of problem reports. Be gentle, good folk.
    "When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick;
    and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    I hope people will exercise some restraint when they open. Last thing a site restore like this needs is a massive hit of traffic and piles of problem reports. Be gentle, good folk.
    Is the sales forum opening back up?

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    I hope people will exercise some restraint when they open. Last thing a site restore like this needs is a massive hit of traffic and piles of problem reports. Be gentle, good folk.
    Is the sales forum opening back up?
    You probably meant this as a question for the general population, since I don't have a clue. I neither shop nor sell there.
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    I hope people will exercise some restraint when they open. Last thing a site restore like this needs is a massive hit of traffic and piles of problem reports. Be gentle, good folk.
    Is the sales forum opening back up?
    You probably meant this as a question for the general population, since I don't have a clue. I neither shop nor sell there.
    Guess I didn’t realize FPN was still a forum and not a classified ad space.

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    I hope people will exercise some restraint when they open. Last thing a site restore like this needs is a massive hit of traffic and piles of problem reports. Be gentle, good folk.
    Is the sales forum opening back up?
    You probably meant this as a question for the general population, since I don't have a clue. I neither shop nor sell there.
    Guess I didn’t realize FPN was still a forum and not a classified ad space.
    Of course it is. That’s where I found the information that Brasso was the preferred product for sprucing up my Watermelon cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    I hope people will exercise some restraint when they open. Last thing a site restore like this needs is a massive hit of traffic and piles of problem reports. Be gentle, good folk.
    Remember the days of getting slashdotted? People would post a link on /. and within minutes 10 thousand people would click on it and, bang, the site went down. Perhaps FPN shouldn't announce their return too loudly.

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    I hope people will exercise some restraint when they open. Last thing a site restore like this needs is a massive hit of traffic and piles of problem reports. Be gentle, good folk.
    Is the sales forum opening back up?
    You probably meant this as a question for the general population, since I don't have a clue. I neither shop nor sell there.
    Guess I didn’t realize FPN was still a forum and not a classified ad space.
    droll!

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    FPN is back on line. I was googling some pen information and a one of the links took me directly to a FPN thread. Surprised, I logged in and found that the forums are working and.... the classifieds section is completely empty!

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    Default Re: FPG Refuges Status Area: The 2020 FPN Diaspora

    No more Chatter sub forum, either. 😢
    My other pen is a Montblanc.

    And my other blog is a tumblr!


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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos.q View Post
    FPN is back on line. .and.... the classifieds section is completely empty!
    Yeah, I see that...

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    classifieds, WIM writes, have to start from scratch....

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    Default Re: FPG Refuges Status Area: The 2020 FPN Diaspora

    Where's the search for now posts / replies?
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    Default Re: FPG Refuges Status Area: The 2020 FPN Diaspora

    There are some things that Wim still has to work on, but the bulk of the board is back. I've gone through the pinned topics with images like exploded views and changed them so that they show again.


    ...yeh, Chatter is there.

    Where's the search for now posts / replies?
    Right hand side near the top. It's marked "unread content" I don't know if that will be changed to "new posts" or not. I find the current label to be a bit confusing.
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    Default Re: FPG Refuges Status Area: The 2020 FPN Diaspora

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    No more Chatter sub forum, either. 😢
    It was there when I looked a few minutes ago. You need to log in to see it, as before.

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    Default Re: FPG Refuges Status Area: The 2020 FPN Diaspora

    Yes, I just noticed chatter is present.

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    What do people think of the new interface/layout? Is this the final format?

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