FPG Refuges Status Area: The 2020 FPN Diaspora

[Jon Szanto]

Why did the English language dispense with the useful you plural?

It's alive and well in Australia (youse) and the US (y'all).

It can get even narrower in geographic usage, such as yinz in the Pittsburgh, PA area.

Hell, in California it's all pretty much "dude".

[eachan]

My good lady tells me that "yinz" is something she associates with Pennsylvania Dutch. I didn't know about that one. In the less salubrious parts of Edinburgh the effective spoken "you plural" is unrepeatable in polite society. Yes. That.

[Empty_of_Clouds]

The English language has not dispensed with the plural 'you', in any formal sense. Fellow countrymen of my generation still use it extensively, both in written prose and conversation, as do I.

Obviously I cannot speak to all the other bastardisations that have been mentioned in this part of the thread!

[eachan]

You, singular and plural is correct. Y'all, yinz, and all the rest? Um, no!

Some of us (self included) are sticklers for correct grammar -- not that we always use it, but the attitude is there.

You may be sticklers for what you see as grammar but you clearly have little knowledge of the history of language.

[Farmboy]

[kaliuzhkin]

It's alive and well in Australia (youse) and the US (y'all).

The only time I've ever heard "youse" being used was the summer of 1970. My partner computer operator would ask me "When are youse having lunch?" He was from the Bronx. Do you think he might have had some connection to Australia?

[eachan]

The English language has not dispensed with the plural 'you', in any formal sense. Fellow countrymen of my generation still use it extensively, both in written prose and conversation, as do I.

Obviously I cannot speak to all the other bastardisations that have been mentioned in this part of the thread!

Which do you see as bastardisations? And of what are they bastardisations?

[NumberSix]

When I was studying foreign languages in school, I always translated the 2nd person plural as "Y'all" (at least in my head). Because as any good Texas kid knows, y'all means more than one person. Hollywood doesn't understand that fact. They get it wrong all the time.

[Empty_of_Clouds]

The English language has not dispensed with the plural 'you', in any formal sense. Fellow countrymen of my generation still use it extensively, both in written prose and conversation, as do I.

Obviously I cannot speak to all the other bastardisations that have been mentioned in this part of the thread!

Which do you see as bastardisations? And of what are they bastardisations?

We need a tongue in cheek emoticon.

[eachan]

The English language has not dispensed with the plural 'you', in any formal sense. Fellow countrymen of my generation still use it extensively, both in written prose and conversation, as do I.

Obviously I cannot speak to all the other bastardisations that have been mentioned in this part of the thread!

Which do you see as bastardisations? And of what are they bastardisations?

We need a tongue in cheek emoticon.

Maybe we do. Humour always lightens the tone. An answer would be good, too.

[Empty_of_Clouds]

That was my answer. 🌻

[eachan]

Fine . It added little to the sum of human knowledge but there we are.

[TSherbs]

My good lady tells me that "yinz" is something she associates with Pennsylvania Dutch. I didn't know about that one. ...

Interesting! I am P.D. and grew up in Dutch country of Pennsylvania, but I don't remember ever hearing that. But I lived in the suburbs, so there's that (my mother corrected my language daily, especially at the dinner table or in front of guests).

I'm gonna start using it now, especially the next time I speak with my mother!

[An old bloke]

Why did the English language dispense with the useful you plural?

It's alive and well in Australia (youse) ...

That's news to me. I've never heard it ('youse') used in NSW, NT, Qld, or Vic.

[pajaro]

Or "youses" in Beantown.

[eachan]

My good lady tells me that "yinz" is something she associates with Pennsylvania Dutch. I didn't know about that one. ...

Interesting! I am P.D. and grew up in Dutch country of Pennsylvania, but I don't remember ever hearing that. But I lived in the suburbs, so there's that (my mother corrected my language daily, especially at the dinner table or in front of guests).

I'm gonna start using it now, especially the next time I speak with my mother!

Good heavens! I hope I haven't caused a family revolt!

[Chrissy]

Good heavens! I hope I haven't caused a family revolt!

A family revolt? At Christmas? When The Grinch (aka BoJo) has stolen Christmas? No! Not this Christmas surely. LOL

[TSherbs]

Good heavens! I hope I haven't caused a family revolt!

A family revolt? At Christmas? When The Grinch (aka BoJo) has stolen Christmas? No! Not this Christmas surely. LOL

ha! Indeed. We've heard over here about your additional lockdown. Sorry! I just was tested again (negative) yesterday because Covid got in our school and we were forced to go remote.

[Chuck Naill]

Jon is going to complain about something, even when there is nothing to complain about. He whined on another forum when a few folks decided to discuss an Esterbrook Deluxe by asking is there was not an Esterbrook forum. It was unnecessary and lame, but his response was basically that he would communicate how he wanted regardless.

If you have an issue with someone's actions or comments on another forum, why not post your displeasure on that forum, don't bring it here thank you very much.

Better still, just ignore that person on the forums or click the X at the top right and give us all a break.

If it were only one one forum, your suggestion would have merit.

I do think there are folks who are older and perhaps retired who are just bitter. They bring that bitterness into the conversation, and as I stated, for no reason. We all should think about it when we post. Just because our lives are not what we want them to be, we don't need to add more pain that already exists to others.

[eachan]

I think we need to let this negative stuff go and stop bringing the board down with it. Why don't we finish this thread and get back to the pens?