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    Default Model/Finish ID please




    Can anyone ID this model please, especially the finish. It is a yet another pen that I owned and sold with regret




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    Default Re: Model/Finish ID please

    That is a really unusual finish. It looks like something that would have been aimed at the Asian market.
    Vintage. Cursive italic. Iron gall.

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    It looks rough doesn't it, like silver birch tree bark, it was actually very smooth and very attractive.

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    Default Re: Model/Finish ID please

    That is a peculiar finish.

    Maybe you find it listed in the Lady Sheaffer reference list at SheafferTarga.com.

    Such as this one, finish is described as "brushed golden satin":
    https://www.sheaffertarga.com/Lady%2...Lacquered.html
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    Default Re: Model/Finish ID please

    Quote Originally Posted by jos View Post
    That is a peculiar finish.

    Maybe you find it listed in the Lady Sheaffer reference list at SheafferTarga.com.

    Such as this one, finish is described as "brushed gold":
    https://www.sheaffertarga.com/Lady%2...ef%20list.html
    Nice find. The grain direction is different though, which leads to quite a different effect:
    Vintage. Cursive italic. Iron gall.

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    Default Re: Model/Finish ID please

    yes, there are different "brushed gold" finishes shown but I meant the one that is described as "brushed golden satin" which has the grain in the right direction. But the OPs pen seems to be different still.

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    Default Re: Model/Finish ID please

    That is definitely the finish. Perhaps OIP can confirm if it was a Lady?
    Vintage. Cursive italic. Iron gall.

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    Default Re: Model/Finish ID please

    I wonder if it started life as one pattern and became damaged. Then the owner tooled it into it's current finish himself? Or maybe it was a trial finish that ended up not being produced?
    It's difficult to see exactly what pattern it is from those pictures but it doesn't seem to match one on the Sheaffer reference list.
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    Default Re: Model/Finish ID please

    Quote Originally Posted by silverlifter View Post
    That is definitely the finish. Perhaps OIP can confirm if it was a Lady?
    Hello

    Not a Lady Sheaffer as I recall.

    I am sure that the finish was from the factory, when I bought it the pen was new and unused although I cannot remember from where.

    I will keep looking.

    Thanks all for your input.

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    Default Re: Model/Finish ID please

    It's the same shape as a Sheaffer Lady but whether it's the same size or not is difficult to imagine from the pictures. I guess a small inset flat nib would confirm it whether it was a Lady.
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    Default Re: Model/Finish ID please

    I think it must have been a Lady Sheaffer from the 900 series, although I cannot see the finish in the Targa website.

    Thanks to all for your contributions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    I think it must have been a Lady Sheaffer from the 900 series, although I cannot see the finish in the Targa website.
    Just to note: the most complete set of ID/Resource pages at the site actually ARE the Targas. As the pens branch out to other modern Sheaffers, there are gaps, sometimes having model # but no other info (photos, etc), and some models not even listed. Some of this can even be chalked up to Sheaffers inconsistent cataloging of their own offerings. i recently tried to help ID a Lady Sheaffer for a fellow on reddit and it was not listed at SheafferTarga.com, but with a lot more digging another person finally came up with that particular finish... which was very much in line with yours: a gold finish model with a particular pattern or chasing.

    I like your pen a lot, quite unique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    I think it must have been a Lady Sheaffer from the 900 series, although I cannot see the finish in the Targa website.
    Just to note: the most complete set of ID/Resource pages at the site actually ARE the Targas. As the pens branch out to other modern Sheaffers, there are gaps, sometimes having model # but no other info (photos, etc), and some models not even listed. Some of this can even be chalked up to Sheaffers inconsistent cataloging of their own offerings. i recently tried to help ID a Lady Sheaffer for a fellow on reddit and it was not listed at SheafferTarga.com, but with a lot more digging another person finally came up with that particular finish... which was very much in line with yours: a gold finish model with a particular pattern or chasing.

    I like your pen a lot, quite unique.
    Thank you, I am kicking myself that I sold it, if I could buy it back again I would do so, that is the reason for my question, thinking back I am not sure that I got on with the nib.

    I will see if I can find another pic just to finish this thread,

    edit for pic

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    Default Re: Model/Finish ID please

    Here's the thread on reddit where we were trying to ID a similar pen, which seemed to be a Lady Sheaffer 903. You'll likely notice similarities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    I think it must have been a Lady Sheaffer from the 900 series, although I cannot see the finish in the Targa website.
    The "brushed golden satin" finish is shown at the very bottom of the Lady Sheaffer list, it is number 12 from the bottom and without model number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jos View Post
    The "brushed golden satin" finish is shown at the very bottom of the Lady Sheaffer list, it is number 12 from the bottom and without model number.
    I looked at that "brushed golden satin" model but it has a lacquer finish. The OP's pen probably looks more like the model pictured on the Reddit thread that seems to be model 903. It's not pictured on the Sheaffer site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    I looked at that "brushed golden satin" model but it has a lacquer finish. The OP's pen probably looks more like the model pictured on the Reddit thread that seems to be model 903. It's not pictured on the Sheaffer site.
    The brushed finish on the 903 does not resemble the brushed pattern in the circular direction on the OP's pen. The 903 also has an additional pattern, on top of the brushes, that repeats every 1cm or so. That second pattern is not seen on the OP's pen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    I looked at that "brushed golden satin" model but it has a lacquer finish. The OP's pen probably looks more like the model pictured on the Reddit thread that seems to be model 903. It's not pictured on the Sheaffer site.
    The brushed finish on the 903 does not resemble the brushed pattern in the circular direction on the OP's pen. The 903 also has an additional pattern, on top of the brushes, that repeats every 1cm or so. That second pattern is not seen on the OP's pen.
    No, it is not the same pattern, but it does appear to be from that same general series of gold finish patterns.
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    Default Re: Model/Finish ID please

    Quote Originally Posted by jos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    I looked at that "brushed golden satin" model but it has a lacquer finish. The OP's pen probably looks more like the model pictured on the Reddit thread that seems to be model 903. It's not pictured on the Sheaffer site.
    The brushed finish on the 903 does not resemble the brushed pattern in the circular direction on the OP's pen. The 903 also has an additional pattern, on top of the brushes, that repeats every 1cm or so. That second pattern is not seen on the OP's pen.
    Fair enough. It might not be the 903. However, I don't see the repeat on the brushed golden satin finish either, and the OP's pen looks quite rough and seems to lack the lacquer finish. I don't know which model it is.
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    Default Re: Model/Finish ID please

    I have looked through the Targa site, huge number of finishes of production pens and many more in the Prototypes. i can understand why someone might want to start a themed collection. I have not been able to find the precise pattern but will keep on looking.


    I remember thinking that the pattern was like a silver birch tree done in gold and then lacquered.



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