How can Trump-believers be persuaded that he lost an honest election?

[TSherbs]

Another sentenced for being stupid enough to believe Trump's election lie:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/22/polit...iot/index.html

I don’t know what I think of Al Gore as he didn’t carry Tennessee in that election and noted he had some fences to mend.

The judge compliments Gore only for conceding, even when he had more of a case than Trump did (Trump had no case at all, and still has no case). The judge called Trump a liar, and this dude gullible enough to believe the lies. Right on the money.

[TSherbs]

And of course, another Big Loser and purveyor of the Big Lie:

CNN: David Perdue sues over 2020 election, further embracing disproven fraud claims.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/10/polit...ims/index.html

[Chuck Naill]

And of course, another Big Loser and purveyor of the Big Lie:

CNN: David Perdue sues over 2020 election, further embracing disproven fraud claims.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/10/polit...ims/index.html

What is really sad is that their followers never exert even a tiny bit of effort to find out the truth.

[TSherbs]

And of course, another Big Loser and purveyor of the Big Lie:

CNN: David Perdue sues over 2020 election, further embracing disproven fraud claims.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/10/polit...ims/index.html

What is really sad is that their followers never exert even a tiny bit of effort to find out the truth.

Time for Perdue to start energizing the paranoid, weak-minded vote. Rev up the conspiracy machine! God bless America!

[Chuck Naill]

And of course, another Big Loser and purveyor of the Big Lie:

CNN: David Perdue sues over 2020 election, further embracing disproven fraud claims.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/10/polit...ims/index.html

What is really sad is that their followers never exert even a tiny bit of effort to find out the truth.

Time for Perdue to start energizing the paranoid, weak-minded vote. Rev up the conspiracy machine! God bless America!

I bet you try to encourage your students to think.

[TSherbs]

I bet you try to encourage your students to think.

Only on every other Tuesday.

[Chuck Naill]

Not a surprise Chris Wallace is leaving Fox.

[TSherbs]

Not a surprise Chris Wallace is leaving Fox.

He challenged Trump about his election lies.

[Chuck Naill]

Not a surprise Chris Wallace is leaving Fox.

He challenged Trump about his election lies.

And maybe had issue with Carlson.

[TSherbs]

Mark Meadows seems not eager to discuss with Congress (under oath) the meetings and material re the PowerPoint presentation about options for blocking the election results. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

[Chuck Naill]

3 Fox hosts contacted Meadows urging Trump to take the riot seriously…NYTIMES

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/13/b...6-meadows.html

[Chip]

They don't care about it being honest.

They're working hard to make US elections less honest, to hold onto the last shreds of white power and moral corruption.

[TSherbs]

They don't care about it being honest.

They're working hard to make US elections less honest, to hold onto the last shreds of white power and moral corruption.

The demographic "browning" of America has many whites afraid of losing their cultural advantage, baked into the systems and attitudes and behaviors in the country since the first European colonial governments were established here.

[TSherbs]

Here's another just published review of the alleged "fraud" in the six contested states of the 2020 election, by the AP:

https://apnews.com/article/voter-fra...37c7601db3328f

A pittance of "flagged" votes, an even smaller number of actual fraud cases.

I don't expect, though, that this news will do anything to change the mind of a hard-core fair-election denier. The denial has never been about observable, measureable facts and effects. It's been a psycho-emotional response to a painful election loss, stoked by a manipulative, prevaricating leader.

[TSherbs]

I was also reminded this morning of the words of Trump's statement later January 6th, 2020:

"I know your pain. I know you're hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side."

Remember The Lie.

[Chuck Naill]

There are times that members will suggest that we are just against Trump, that he did good things that liked, and he was the victim. My question has always been, don't you hear and see his actions?

I've read members brag on his business success. Give the spectical of his four years in office, would anybody think he did it honestly? If not honestly, would you still believe he is a business success? THose are questions we all have to ask ourselves.

[kazoolaw]

I was also reminded this morning of the words of Trump's statement later January 6th, 2020:

"I know your pain. I know you're hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side."

Remember The Lie.

At least we have been spared hearing his acceptance speech.

[Chuck Naill]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/16/o...smid=url-share

[TSherbs]

Fox loses bid to have Dominion lawsuit dismissed:

ABC News: Delaware judge rejects Fox News motion to dismiss lawsuit.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...wsuit-81806558

[Chuck Naill]

When will Fox ever be brought to justice? They are so entangled.