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    Default Re: "a conspiracy unfolding...." "...a well-funded cabal....

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip View Post
    Is this whataboutism at a fever pitch?

    The guy in the middle— your fearless leader— committed several rapes and screwed porn stars while his wife was pregnant. Not to mention stealing money with fraud schemes, cheating on his taxes, and lying his arse off.

    No wonder Republicans love him.
    Oh my, he did more than that. You have to wonder how this guy fooled so many.

    "Trump was furious. He said Monnin had “loser’s remorse,” and said that if you “looked at her and compared her to the other people who were in the top 15, you would understand why she was not in the top 15.” His consigliere Michael Cohen called into TMZ Live and said that Monnin had 24 hours to retract her statement or that she could “bet [her] a** that [Miss Universe] will sue . . . seeking massive damages.” Consigliere Cohen was good to his word. Trump obtained a $5 million defamation award against Monnin in an uncontested arbitration proceeding, which was upheld by a federal judge.

    A 2013 investigation by Jezebel found that a pageant recruiter in Trump’s Miss USA franchise allegedly demanded a blow job in exchange for magazine work that would allow a contestant to pay the $895 contest entrance fee.

    Trump had acquired the Miss Universe franchise in 1996. He reportedly paid tens of millions of dollars (the exact figure was not disclosed) to buy it from ITT Corp., beating out beat two television networks and several South American media moguls. (The deal also included Miss USA and Miss Teen USA.) Trump ran Miss Universe as a 50-50 partnership with TV networks, first with CBS, and, after 2002, with NBC.

    On the surface, it looked like a good business. It cost $20 million to bring the 2013 Miss Universe pageant to Moscow. Emin Agalarov whose family owns the arena that hosted the pageant broke down the costs for Russian Forbes. A third of that $20 million went to secure rights. Another third: organizational costs. And the final third goes to the production and broadcast costs. (Another report said overseas rights to Miss Universe were selling for $6 million in 2003.)

    Very little of that money, however, was distributed to the general partners of Miss Universe. We know this because Trump had assigned his half of his interest in Miss Universe (25 percent of the company) to his publicly-traded corporation, Trump Entertainment Resorts, Inc. In 2002, the year Fedorova won in Puerto Rico, Trump Entertainment collected a mere $700,000 for it quarter share of the pageant. In 2003 and 2004, Trump Entertainment earned nothing from Miss Universe.

    Where was all the money going?

    Even if the business was a stinker, there was one attraction for Trump. It allowed him to indulge his Porky’s-style adolescent fantasy of seeing beautiful women naked when they were in no position to refuse.

    “I’ll go backstage and everyone’s getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump told Howard Stern in 2005.

    Listen for yourself:"


    "Asked whether he had ever slept with a contestant, Trump declined to say. “It could be a conflict of interest. … But, you know, it’s the kind of thing you worry about later, you tend to think about the conflict a little bit later on.”

    Trump sold Miss Universe in 2015 to the talent agency WME | IMG for $28 million. The value of the franchise had been damaged by Trump’s description of Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists, which led NBC and Univision to drop coverage of Miss USA."

    https://sethhettena.com/2017/11/27/t...-beauty-queen/

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    Default Re: "a conspiracy unfolding...." "...a well-funded cabal....

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    Mr. Kazoolaw, from December 9, 2020

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/09/u...stigation.html
    Can't see it behind the paywall: does the Times acknowledge that the laptop is Hunter's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazoolaw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    Mr. Kazoolaw, from December 9, 2020

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/09/u...stigation.html
    Can't see it behind the paywall: does the Times acknowledge that the laptop is Hunter's?
    “ A computer repair shop owner in Wilmington, Del., named John Paul Mac Isaac has said Hunter Biden left a damaged Apple computer at his store in April 2019 and asked him to recover any data. Mr. Isaac said that Mr. Biden filled out a work order and identified himself as Hunter Biden, and that he came to his shop twice but never returned to retrieve the computer or an external hard drive on which its contents had been stored.”

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    Default Re: "a conspiracy unfolding...." "...a well-funded cabal....

    So you chose your excerpt because no where did the NYT admit it was really HB's computer.

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    Default Re: "a conspiracy unfolding...." "...a well-funded cabal....

    No, I just did a simple search with HB and NYT with a early date.

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    Default Re: "a conspiracy unfolding...." "...a well-funded cabal....


    Search forr when NYT admitted it is really HB's.

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    Default Re: "a conspiracy unfolding...." "...a well-funded cabal....

    *sigh*

    Here's the March 2022 NYT Article.

    People familiar with the investigation said prosecutors had examined emails between Mr. Biden, Mr. Archer and others about Burisma and other foreign business activity. Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.
    This is the same laptop and the same files the liberal media was writing off as "Russian disinformation" in October 2020 - right before the election. The same thing "50 intelligence experts" (Clapper, Brennan and the other nitwits) chimed in on. Oh, the NYT quietly deleted their claim the laptop was unsubstantiated, by the way.

    You have to be deep in the liberal echo chamber or willfully ignorant to not know this story and how it is unfolding as I type this. Anyone but an elitist would have been prosecuted for a number of crimes from the ATF violation to the sitting Vice President (now current President) getting his son a job on the board of an oil company in Ukraine - and funneling a portion of that money to "the big guy" (the sitting President!).

    Dear god, this is the shit the Democrats accused Trump of, tried to impeach him twice for and we still see chimpscreamed about here.

    I'm no fan of Trump, but 3 years of a special counsel to investigate "Russia collusion"; years of the New York AG suing for basically open access to all of his business records with no probable cause; and Democrats haven't turned up one shred of evidence anywhere near as plain and concrete as this laptop. Rather the opposite, and Durham has convicted one FBI attorney for perjuring himself on FISA warrant applications - lying to the court by falsifying documents (emails - plain and obvious evidence). Now he is indicting the general counsel of Hillary's 2016 campaign for lying to the FBI and seeding the whole "Russia/Trump" thing in the first place.

    Oh, the political theater of another impeachment is far from something I want to suffer again, but this is an actual "High Crime" in plain view. Honestly, I wouldn't want to see Biden impeached because of who succeeds him. The Republicans are likely to have sweeping victories this fall. Probably not enough in the Senate to gain a supermajority, but I'm ok with 2 years of gridlock in the Federal Government.

    Let's not forget the "influencing the election" angle. 20% of Biden voters polled said they would not have voted for him if they knew (i.e.: if the media and big tech hadn't suppressed the story).
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    Default Re: "a conspiracy unfolding...." "...a well-funded cabal....

    How was the "abandoned" laptop acquired and the files examined? Federal subpoena? Seizure by investigators? Or was it it stolen?

    Then there's Ashley Biden's diary, that was stolen by Project Veritas, followed up by fraudulent phone contacts to verify it.

    There's nothing so low or dishonest the RWW vigilantes won't give it a try.

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    Default Re: "a conspiracy unfolding...." "...a well-funded cabal....

    The FBI has been in possession of the laptop since 2019. All those questions have answers. What you should be asking is why hadn't the outlets you peruse already told you about it? and why did they say it wasn't true - until a few days ago.

    Hunter admitted to the tax liability, and just paid that. That's the new development than can't be written off as Russian propaganda. The IRS says "hey, where'd this money come from? You owe some taxes..." That's why it's back in the news, and the NYT fessing up about it is fodder for the right to chimp scream about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip View Post
    How was the "abandoned" laptop acquired and the files examined? Federal subpoena? Seizure by investigators? Or was it it stolen?


    "In October 2020, The Post exclusively reported on the contents of Hunter Biden’s laptop that he ditched at a Delaware repair shop in April 2019."
    https://nypost.com/2022/03/17/hunter...-times-report/

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    Default Re: "a conspiracy unfolding...." "...a well-funded cabal....

    So at least he paid the taxes.

    That's more than you can say for Trump.

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    Default Re: "a conspiracy unfolding...." "...a well-funded cabal....

    The FEC just fined Hillary’s campaign and the DNC for paying for the Steele dossier.

    Who was that guy who fed Steele his information? Igor Danchenko? Sounds Russian.
    What investigation was the Steele dossier the foundation for?

    The NYT should be publishing the story in a couple of years…
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    Default Re: "a conspiracy unfolding...." "...a well-funded cabal....

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip View Post
    So at least he paid the taxes.

    That's more than you can say for Trump.

    Typical: when information contradicts the party line it's ignored, and a flurry of deflection appears.

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