Regards, Chrissy | My Review Blog: inkyfountainpens
This is not true. Per eBays guarantee policy, if the seller can prove that they in fact shipped the item then they are not responsible. A new policy (as of the past few months) states that any purchase over $700 must be insured because of this.
The reason that eBay is saying that I can’t appeal the buyers refund is because I apparently had only 3 days to enter the tracking info again after the buyer filed his dispute. If I don’t provide the tracking info within those three days, then they charge me.
HOWEVER!, I went all lawyer on their ass and studied their Money Back Guarantee Policy thoroughly and found what is most likely my silver bullet; within the policy, it states that if the package is not delivered according to the latest postage estimated delivery date, the buyer has up to 30 days after that estimated date to file a claim. The latest delivery date was November 23 2020 and he just filed this claim on February 2 2021. So after patronizing eBay on their own policy, my case has now been moved up to a higher ranking supervisor (his name is Mark) who said the money is now in some sort of escrow and I will receive it either once the postal service delivers it or it is returned. (This will most likely not happen)
I went to the post office and talked to a supervisor there and they gave me some information, but the tracking seems to die once it gets to the post office over in Korea. So idk...
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This is not true. As a seller on eBay I’m not responsible for shipping problems. That’s one reason why eBay only allows sellers to ship using their certified shipping methods. I’ve been on the phone with eBay support all week and the buyer is not responsible for the product once they have shipped and proven shipment. So yea, there’s nothing I can do at that point that the buyer can’t do themselves.
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This is true. And if you consider the price of things after insured and first class international shipping, most things on eBay become more expensive then buying them from certified retailers (obviously not in the case of buying a MB 149 for $400, but you get my point). Point being, as long as you(the seller) can prove you shipped the package with tracking number, then you’re covered. My main point is that I did that and eBay still debuted my account and wouldn’t even allow me to appeal it. I did my due diligence, I did my homework on what I needed to do to be covered as a seller, and I was practical in thinking eBay would honor this policy. So the lesson isn’t “always go way above and beyond” it’s that I can’t trust eBay to honor their own constitution
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Not related to the whole shipping/tracking/insurance discussion, but I wanted to add that if you are ever selling on anything more than a casual basis, I have been told by multiple sources that you should set up a separate bank account to link to PayPal. After you received funds, you transfer the money. It is a lot harder for them to take money that is not there and opens up an entire separate avenue to fight charges.
Detman101 (February 12th, 2021), spencerwilli (February 11th, 2021)
I probably wasn't clear: if I put insurance on something I am selling and sending off to someone else, I'm doing it for my OWN protection. I am covered no matter what else happens if the package is lost. Best of all would also require signiture for receipt of item.
This is also why I have rarely sold pens, even though I really do need to lower the number. I have no need for the kind of headaches described in this thread, and am grateful that my previous transactions have been drama-free.
Last edited by Jon Szanto; February 11th, 2021 at 02:49 PM.
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From what i have read the seller is responsible until the item reaches the buyer to include insurance which i always do. I recently looked at that because insurance costs increased. Ebay nor paypal will do squat for you. Hate that happened. Serious scombags out there looking for ways to steal from others.
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Sorry but you aren't correct. As the seller you are responsible for getting the item to the buyer or refunding his money if it is not received for whatever reason. In your above post you've mixed up buyer and seller. The buyer has no responsibility at all with shipment of the product. Check out ebay selling policies.
One thing is for sure: the buyer should not have the item and the money. If you have a tracking number that proves delivery to the buyer's confirmed address then you have no problem. You should appeal the ebay decision even if you submitted the information late for some reason.
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Regards, Chrissy | My Review Blog: inkyfountainpens
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Seattleite (March 5th, 2021)
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Seattleite (March 5th, 2021)
This is precisely what I do with my paypal account.
It is linked to an account that I transfer the EXACT amount needed into.
Then after the transaction there's nothing to take until I deposit for the next transaction.
Just like with any other "auto-debit" type of account...only keep in there exactly what's needed.
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Seattleite (February 13th, 2021)
This why we have a posted policy that says that we ship priority mail, or priority international with insurance and signature confirmation. Period. The only exception is for orders for "stuff" under $50. Signature confirmation became a hard and fast rule when the PO delivered to the wrong street address. When the carrier went back, the residents denied receiving the package, or any knowledge of anything being delivered. Carriers who have signed without permission, or for the "convenience" of the recipient, usually get roasted by said person at the local post office.
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Seattleite (February 24th, 2021), TFarnon (February 12th, 2021), welch (February 19th, 2021)
Because of the deadly virus of death, at least here in California where the lockdown is the new religion, NOBODY is getting signatures even when the shipper pays for signature confirmation. I just bought a new computer for $2500 that was shipped insured and with signature confirmation, and the delivery person (UPS) just left it on the porch without even ringing the doorbell. If a porch pirate had nabbed it, I would be SOL.
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Detman101 (February 23rd, 2021), Seattleite (February 24th, 2021), TFarnon (February 24th, 2021)
At least half a million Americans have died from Covid — and that’s only the ones we know about. 0 Americans died from shoe or underwear bombing , and yet decades later, people are religiously removing their shoes and going through machines that look under their clothes. Maybe fewer would have died from Covid if Americans had taken it as seriously.
Anyway, Signature Confirmation has always been a joke in New York. Either they just give you the salmon card without attempting a delivery, forcing you to go to the post office, or they simply throw the parcel in with the rest and ignore that it needs a signature.
My carrier once blew off the signature requirement and left a parcel containing an MB 149 with the rest of the mail for the building. He never scanned it delivered either, so i kept waiting for it, not expecting it to be delivered on a holiday. Meanwhile one of my neighbors made off with the parcel.
I’ve had other sign-for parcels go AWOL. Sometimes i think the Signature Confirmation label is a steal-me sticker.
Detman101 (February 23rd, 2021), eachan (February 23rd, 2021), Jon Szanto (February 23rd, 2021), Ole Juul (February 24th, 2021), TFarnon (February 24th, 2021)
You should come to my post office. They know me by name, I have a PO Box and they ask to see my drivers license when I sign for a package, which is every package I get with or without signature required.
Detman101 (February 24th, 2021)
That, and one must never forget the hobbyist's maxim: He (or she) who dies with the most pens (ink/paper/model airplanes/fabric/whatever) wins!
This doesn’t make much sense...
The reason we have security checks at airports and other major public venues is because the potential for one person to harm many people all at once. Examples like the Boston bombing, what happened in Vegas, Orlando, 9/11, etc show how vulnerable the public can be to the ill will of one person or a small few people. We have technologies that are easily accessible which, in the wrong hands, can be and are used against us. Maybe the incidence isn’t as high as cancer rates, but maybe we have those security checkpoints to thank for that
So yea, there’s plenty of instances when a security check could have saved many lives. And it’s not like walking through a metal detector is any form of extreme invasion of privacy.
I dont think using raw numbers makes for a very sound argument about these things. They’re very convoluted and complex. You mention COVID as an example; “half a million people have died” juxtaposed against 0 Americans dying from “underwear bombing” as if our fallen troops in the Middle East never had to deal with suicide bombers. Those were Americans weren’t they the point is, I don’t think using the raw numbers to try and justify these things is a good argument. For example, if you’re under the age of 50, you’re more like to die in a car crash than you are from the virus (this is a true fact, I’ll even post the epidemiological numbers). But saying that, like saying no one has died from underwear bombings, isn’t giving the whole story.
Just for those who are interested in how I came up with that statistic:
The total number of Americans under 50 years of age who died in a car crash in 2018 is 21,545. (This data was gather from iihs.org)
The total number of covid American deaths of people under 50 is 20,725 between January 2020 and January 2021. (This data was gathered from covid19.who.int)
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Last edited by spencerwilli; February 24th, 2021 at 01:31 AM.
I’m not going to debate you on Covid here. My point was that the problems with signature confirmation were there before Covid.
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