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    Default Macniven & Cameron Waverley

    I bought this pen about 9 years ago from ebay.
    They sold quite a bunch of them as never out of stock pens and advertised them as flexible nib pens.
    They said it was produced about 1940.
    I know that the company was in business until 1964.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macniven_and_Cameron

    The pen is an eyedropper, actually very light, made of plastic, has an ebonite feed and a 14ct gold nib.




    (Macniven & Cameron Waverley)


    The pen is quite simple, the builidng quality is ok, but nothing special, I would call it a entry pen.
    It has an engraving on the barrel "Waverley Cameron Made in Great Britain"





    The nib has has the typical "Waverley" form, just like the steel dip nibs and is stamped with "Waverley 14ct".

    The form was also patented, you can read about the nibs here:
    https://vintagepensblog.blogspot.com...erley-nib.html





    The tipping of the nib is quite special compared to most other nibs.
    At the end it has a kind of upturn.
    The breather hole is not round (has the "Waverley" form)





    Actually this pen is not one of my favorite ones.
    It is very prone to burping and dripping (especially if it is not inked up completely).
    So what I usually do before starting to write is to give it a wipe with a paper towel as a preventive action.
    Otherwise it is usually too wet or even drip ink on the paper when starting to write.
    Using a very dry ink might also help a bit.

    When you keep continously writing itīs actually quite ok to write with it (just donīt make too long thinking breaks).
    It also gives you quite ok line variation. I would say itīs more than semi-flex but in the lower full flex range.



    (Macniven & Cameron Waverley ..... Octopus Burgunder)
    Last edited by Pterodactylus; February 20th, 2021 at 11:51 AM.

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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    Thanks Ptero for posting it here.
    I guess that would be a perfect candidate for Iron galls, like Essri, Registrars etc....

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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    Interesting pen, Ptero.

    Sounds like a good nib saddled with a low-budget body that doesn't stand the test of time.
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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    The whole issue of the so-called "Waverley" fountain pen nib is an interesting one. Deb had some things to say about it years ago.
    https://goodwriterspens.com/2013/03/...-waverley-nib/

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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    Funnily enough, this very morning I was cleaning up one of these pens of my own. They are hard rubber, but so good you would never think so, with many of them. Mines I soaked in Domestos bleach, it has, in my experience be Domestos, to be effective, to get back to black, with no detriment to the barrel material. Came up very well, the material is possibly some of the best black hard rubber you'll encounter. Maybe it came from the North British (terrible name for Scotland !) Rubber company in Dundee Street, Edinburgh
    These pens I believe were made for the Indian Civil Service, where rubber may rot ?
    Famously A.N.Other "adopted" the Waverley name for nibs they produced or shaped ?
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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    I have varios Dip nibs from this Cameron Company Waverly.
    I wonder if the standard Weverly type of fountain pen Nibs came after this company.

    Some stock nib are named as
    -Oblique nibs
    -Italic nibs
    -cursive italic
    -Broad nibs
    -Medium nibs
    -Fine and Extra fine nibs
    -WARVERLY Type NIBS. ??????

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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyril View Post
    I have varios Dip nibs from this Cameron Company Waverly.
    I wonder if the standard Weverly type of fountain pen Nibs came after this company.
    Cyril check eachan's link above. You'll get your answer

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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    I have one of these! When it's running right it's a lot of fun. Mostly it burps, spits and is generally a little obstreperous.

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    Ralf (from Glasgow)

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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    Which one do you have, Ralf?

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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    Obstreperous? Learned a new word today... Yay!

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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    I love the looks of the Waverley pens. I saw one years ago in black and red ebonite and have lusted after it ever since.

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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    Here's my Waverley Cameron eyedropper.





    I'm another who suffers from inconsistent flow from this model! From starvation to
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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    That's one of the late ones made for India but never exported. Made by Burnham, I think.

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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    Not mine, but if anyone knows anyone that has this pen or similar...


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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    This is a Macniven & Cameron Ltd., Scholar's Waverley Series, lever filler.



    The ends are chewed up, so I can imagine that at some point, this was indeed in the hands of a studious (or bored) scholar.

    The steel nib has a sweet spot, but stray out of that and any flourishes will shred that paper you've been working on.
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    Default Re: Macniven & Cameron Waverly

    I have to say that I like how slender and long it (Scholar's Waverley Series, lever filler) is. It seems to mimic the feel and balance of a dip pen to which a user of the era would have been very familiar.

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