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    Default It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    https://www.parkerpen.com/en-GB/parker51

    Looks interesting.............

    Does anyone have one ?

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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    "When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick;
    and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."

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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    Only some of them.
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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    Yesterday purepens.co.uk had both the Black deluxe and classic FP's to offer.

    All there coloured classic's sold out immediately.

    They have not yet received any Plum deluxes

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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    I'm sorry, but I think I'd buy the Wing Sung 601 first. It looks like the better pen.

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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    I will stick with the original P51΄s thank you

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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Z View Post
    I'm sorry, but I think I'd buy the Wing Sung 601 first. It looks like the better pen.
    I have two...they work really well!
    My other pen is a Montblanc.

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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    Clearly there are not many from his forum standing in the queue for one.

    I will eventually buy two, the classic in Teal and deluxe in Plum when they become available.




    Does a Wing Sung 601 bought for £8.81 from www.aliexpress.com really compare to these ?
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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    I have a Wing Sung 601. It doesn't seem possible that the remade P51 can be superior on a dollar for dollar basis. I believe the original P51 aerometric is better than either. Cost-wise it's hard to beat the Wing 601 with either the original or remade Parker 51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proteus View Post
    Does a Wing Sung 601 bought for £8.81 from www.aliexpress.com really compare to these ?
    All we can tell from photos are aesthetics, and just like supermodels, it is possible that image enhancement has occurred. The only way to know is to see how they feel in-hand, and how they write. Then people can wager as to how best spend their money.
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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    one on the way when they get them in, Fahrneys. Got more expensive gold nib. was gonna get a converter but not for $12

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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    If I decided to go ahead and buy the brand new pen then I don't think an extra $12 would prevent me from getting the new converter.
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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    pajaro

    I believe the original P51 aerometric is better than either.

    I 100% agree with you.



    JS, wise words ( my pleasure to read them )


    My interest is to look at one or two ( classic / deluxe )


    I thought the 2002 P51SE was rather wonderful, the Legacy ( Black ) was the best P51 cap that I have ever seen.
    ( Two images attached )


    For my money the best P51 was the 1958/59 C/C, vastly creative and clever.


    This new version will never compare to any other versions, it is very different.


    Just a modern version designed to attract new pen users.
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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    I have several Parker 51 vintage aerometric pens. I don't have any enthusiasm for buying new fountain pens. I am tired of C/C pens. Most of the many C/C pens I have are hard starters, generally needing a wetting or a fill-up to get going. That and at this point I do not like the looks of the new 2021 Parker 51s.

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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    pajaro,

    These modern versions of the P51 are not designed for you or I.

    They are for the new generation of Parker users.

    I will wait and see what they are like when I actually have one.

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    I saw that Endless Pens is advertising them.
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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    Some images of one.............

    It is different, a modern version

    Hardly a replacement to the classic P51 but I think it was never going to be.
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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    Thanks for the superb images, Proteus. That appears to be a fairly close colour match to the P51 Aerometric Teal.

    I agree that this pen was never going to be an attempt at a repeat of the original P51. If it were Parker could simply have brushed off the drawings for the wonderful P51 CC from the late 1950s (amongst my favourite P51s) and made some adjustments to cater for new materials, and current Parker branding.

    Perhaps it might be an idea to consider the "Parker 51 reimagined" in the same way as the UK Aerometric Duofolds (mid-50s to mid-70s). That is, reliable and good writers at middle of the road prices (the Aerometric Duofolds were priced from roughly just over £1 [Slimfold] to c.£2.50 [Maxima] at a time when a P51 Custom was North of £5). I can see some symmetry here in that modern Duofolds can cost £400+ quite easily whilst the new P51 is c.£70 for the CT version and c.£200 for the Deluxe.

    Whether or not this new P51 is better than some of Parker's other current mid-range pens is a moot point. Certainly mine is a very smooth writer, and I do rather like the look of it but I am not sufficiently familiar with the current Parker FP range to be able to draw any conclusions on that front. Doubtless others have and will, and I expect that there may well be quite a variety of opinion.

    I wondered before I bought the pen where on the spectrum the new P51 Burgundy colour would sit. It is not a bad fit. Here is a snapshot of my new pen between two Newhaven P51s - a 1951 Q1 Classic on the left and a c.1957 Deluxe to the right. Also I fancy that there is a very faint hint of claret to the new P51 colour.

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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    Sheptonian,

    I read your reply with great interest.

    Liked your image too.




    I thought the remake was rather clever.

    The cap uses Sonnet technology

    The feed unit I thought was clever.


    The shells were rather good.


    They should have gold plated the nib, then it would have looked vastly better.


    Hardly a P51SE or a P51 C/C


    I thought that the price point was on the money, it is cheaper than most Sonnets


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    Default Re: It appears that the 2021 P51 FP is now available in the UK

    From the pictures you showed of the teal pen it has all chrome trim with no signs of gold plating anywhere, therefore IMHO they have correctly left the steel nib chrome coloured so that it matches the rest of the pen. Isn't this common among many manufacturers? They don't usually stick a gold coloured nib in an all chrome trim pen?

    The original Parker 51's may have had gold coloured nibs because they had actual gold nibs, but you could barely see the nib anyway so it didn't matter so much that it was gold. On the new 51 the steel nib sticks out more so it is more noticeable and therefore needs to match.

    The new 51 DL versions with gold plated caps have gold nibs. They look nice.
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