Money doesn't buy you happiness.

**Chuck Naill** · October 5th, 2022, 12:27 PM

The point is to have a good life and not how much money you can acquire. Now, I may be assuming too much!

Too much with dread of loss is worse than too little and hope that better times are coming.

It is easier to focus on negativity than positivity.

**NeitMiko** · November 30th, 2022, 10:02 AM

Money doesn't buy you happiness but with their help, you can travel around the world and be happy because of that, buy something for your friends/parents that they wanted for a long time and it will make you happy... there're much more reasons why money really matter in the terms of happiness. That is the reason I decided to earn as much as I can and am playing also casino slot77 as long as working a full-time job. Btw casino is pretty fun and profitable.

**Chuck Naill** · November 30th, 2022, 10:20 AM

Well said.

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**jace** · April 6th, 2023, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by TSherbs

"happiness" shouldn't even be the goal

There are much greater and deeper and sustaining forms of satisfaction than the fleeting cloud-states we call "happy" that pass through our existence from time to time.

But let us remember how much comfort and protection from misery and pain and hunger money can "buy." Forgetting this is an act of privilege.

Could these "deeper" satisfactions just be a different level of happiness?

I mean I think it's all to do with brain chemistry at the end of the day. We can argue all we want about how some activities are better than others (e.g. doing mathematics vs reading mathematics vs playing video games), but it is all just molecules moving through our brains which motivate what we do and how we "feel".

Do we have free will may be another discussion that's related.

**TSherbs** · April 6th, 2023, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by jace

Originally Posted by TSherbs

"happiness" shouldn't even be the goal

There are much greater and deeper and sustaining forms of satisfaction than the fleeting cloud-states we call "happy" that pass through our existence from time to time.

But let us remember how much comfort and protection from misery and pain and hunger money can "buy." Forgetting this is an act of privilege.

Could these "deeper" satisfactions just be a different level of happiness? ...

Yes, certainly. I was suggesting that the word "happiness" (from "happy", meaning having luck or good fortune, or in a pleasant state of mind) was not in its connotation (and denotation) a permanent or lasting or deep or significant state of mind. There are, I think, better words for those deeper states (even if it is all brain chemistry).

**TSherbs** · May 28th, 2023, 07:05 PM

Money won't even buy you security against loss in California any more.

"State Farm is (no longer) there."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/state-farm...ry?id=99660740

**Rin Tin Pen** · July 4th, 2023, 07:25 PM

For the behavioral researcher Frederick Herzberg, money (income, profit) is a source of dissatisfaction when you feel that you do not have enough of it. If your salary is sufficiently augmented with a healthy raise, your sense of dissatisfaction dissipates. That does NOT mean that you are now "satisfied" with your job (position, place in life, etc.). It simply means that a source of dissatisfaction for you has been eliminated.
...THAT IS...
The opposite of dissatisfaction is not satisfaction, it is "no dissatisfaction."
The opposite of satisfaction is not dissatisfaction, it is "no satisfaction."
...AND...
The opposite of happiness is not unhappiness, it is "no happiness."
The opposite of unhappiness is not happiness, it is "no unhappiness."

Lots of Americans are not "happy." But that does not mean that they are "unhappy." They are simply living lives of quiet desperation.

"Money don't get everything it's true,
What it don't get I can't use.
Now give me money, that's what I want. That's what I want..."
(Money, written by Berry Gordy and Janie Bradford. It became the first big money-making record for Gordy's Motown enterprise. LOL.)

**Carpio** · July 5th, 2023, 02:29 AM

Hello,

What is 'happiness'?
Is it the same 'happiness' that is seen through the eyes, and actions, of a dictator. Total power over how somebody else lives their life.(read Kim Jong Un)
Is it the same as watching the love of your life giving birth to your children?
Is it winning millions of £, $ on a lottery ticket or casino?
Is it catching the biggest fish in a lake, or finding/buying a new car, a fountain pen, a bowl of rice or donating monies to a charity, recovering from an illness?
Happiness takes many forms. What is one man/woman happiness may well be another persons nightmare.
Suicide is final. No coming back from it.
Suicide, in the eyes of some, is seen as a cowards way out. Isn't it?
As already has been said in the thread - the ones left behind are the ones left to pick up pieces - left with regrets that maybe they should of/could of done more to help. In itself, this can lead to mental health issues - and the cycle continues - ironic isn't it!
My Mother suffered several nervous/mental breakdowns in her life - several of them leaving indelible marks not to be wished on anyone, but, one can/has to make a choice, all be it, subconsciously/consciously - either rise above it, or go along with it and suffer oneself.
Mental health - now that's a big book. More pages than man/woman could read in a lifetime, but is it really?
I'm not saying that mental health isn't a wicked, horrible thing. It so is, but nowadays, and I can only speak for myself - nowadays, 'mental health' issues, is a card which is thrown around so quickly, with no thought being given to the truth of the matter.
As an example - here in the UK, where a 'celebrity' is made just for walking into somebody's house, unannounced, and filming the action/posting said event on Toktock, or whatever the social media shyte is called. That, well that brings celebrity status.
To the point - A certain British "celebrity" has, in the recent past, been caught drinking and driving, partaking in, caught red handed, snorting cocaine, been made bankrupt, amongst many other wrong doings. This woman has been taken to caught for her criminal actions, but has, due to her pleading she has "mental health" issues, been given very lenient sentencing/punishment. The punishment not fitting the crime. This said - the same woman then goes to a foreign land to have cosmetic surgery, costing thousands of £'s (bankrupt?), only to come back to the UK, to continue in her 'ways', ending up going to court again, and again pleading 'mental health' issues, only to go unpunished, again. Now, seen by a vast amount of people as, 'grabbing the limelight', said woman is now claiming that she has been processed as having ADHD. This, in her mind, at least in the minds of many, many people, keeps her 'relevant'. The gist being - for many, claiming mental health issues is an easy way out.
Mental health pleading, is passing real sick people by, and it is making people who do care, sceptical and appear thoughtless.
There isn't a test that the ordinary joe/josephine can take to be able to say, 'OK, you have issues. Let me help.' It's almost mandatory that one helps, but real people, with real issues, are being ignored.
Sorry if my thoughts/opinion agitates, but opinon is fine for everyone. I do care. I care for people who feel that life can't go on, but such a person must also help themselves. Don't give up with the slightest of 'suffering' (in any form). Fight back..... and for those that say (in their accepted opinion), it isn't as easy as that. How do they know?
Mental health is - a military man witnessing attrocities in war. Struggling to find peace with themselves having seen children, men, women mutilated. That is mental health issues. People witnessing terrible things. People not coping with losing a loved one. That can be seen as mental health issues. Many things lead to mental health issues, but - breaking a nail, finding you lost out on millons of £'s / $'s because you didn't buy a lottery ticket which came up with the winning numbers (your winning numbers) (yes - that happened here in the UK last year), or your favourite football team/baseball team losing a match - THAT IS NOT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. Life is for living, not for looking for the easy way out.

Carpio

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