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    Default Gutenberg Urkundentinten G10 Schwatz (iron gall)

    This ink is made by Gutenberg GmbH (Läufer & Gutenberg). They make four other Aniline inks.

    According to google translate, Urkunen means Certificate, and tinten, ink, so Gutenberg is a certificate ink. It is waterproof.

    It reminds me of home-made iron gall inks. It is watery, lacks lubrication and will not work in all pens. My EF experience was unreadable. However, I can always blame it on the pen.

    It’s a brown black.

    It’s not an easy ink to buy for people outside Europe. But not impossible. I recommend it only to iron gall aficionados, dry ink lovers, or those who like inks that reminds them of leathers, cigar and might as a well a drop of whisky (whiskey or bourbon)


    · Pens used: Unic wet Noodle vintage flex, Conway Stewart 330, Oblique, Pilot Metro Fine, Sheaffer Calligraphy medium wide, Generic Chinese EF and stub.

    · Shading: Yes
    · Ghosting: None
    · Bleed through: None.
    · Flow Rate: alright
    · Lubrication: Absent
    · Nib Dry-out: Nope.
    · Start-up: No problem.
    · Saturation: Unsaturated
    · Shading Potential: Yes.
    · Sheen: Unless you poor a drop.
    · Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: None.
    · Nib Creep / “Crud”: None
    · Staining (pen): Nope. Easy to clean…
    · Clogging: Nope
    · Water resistance: Waterproof
    · Availability: Only in bottle 30 ml and I believe 1100 ml. Only place worldwide soldan.de

    However, buying is not straight forward. You buy one. They send you an invoice for bank transfer. You tell them it costs a lot. They send you to a different department. They give you a PayPal address. You send them money. And then they send. And you need a German translator. For Europeans it’s easiest. The US also have more options.
    However, their service is topnotch. My first bottle was corrupted. They replaced it immediately.

    Bottle:
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    Written sample on TR 68 gr
    Gutenebrg - review.jpg

    This is an earlier writing sample: Note EF is not legible. The stub, might been affected by salix. While I rinsed and clean the pen the trace inks seem to have affected the ink.
    Gutenebrg -Writing with medium and EF.jpg


    Written samples on cheap Hilroy notebook
    Gutenebrg - Hilroy.jpg
    Back: If it doesn't ghost on this paper it won't ghost on any other
    Gutenebrg - Hilroy- Back 1.jpg

    Chroma (disclaimer) my first bottle had gone slightly off. This is the chroma of the first bottle... I didn't bother with the new bottle.

    Chroma.jpeg

    High resolution scan of a drop on Hammermill paper
    drop on Hammermill.jpeg



    I don't have anything in that range:
    Swabs - Gutenberg.jpg

    Sketch done with a fine pilot metro:
    Gutenebrg - Sketch -Fine nib.jpeg

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    Default Re: Gutenberg Urkundentinten G10 Schwatz (iron gall)

    Your chroma turned into a fish, which looks cool.

    Thanks for the review.
    My other pen is a Montblanc.

    And my other blog is a tumblr!


    Dr. Inkenstein--it was a dark and stormy write!

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    Default Re: Gutenberg Urkundentinten G10 Schwatz (iron gall)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    Your chroma turned into a fish, which looks cool.

    Thanks for the review.
    Oh, I didn't see. You've got an eagle eye!

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    Default Re: Gutenberg Urkundentinten G10 Schwatz (iron gall)

    I enjoyed the review, Yazeh - - - and your handwriting is quite interesting.

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    Default Re: Gutenberg Urkundentinten G10 Schwatz (iron gall)

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    I enjoyed the review, Yazeh - - - and your handwriting is quite interesting.
    Thanks Robert! Much appreciated

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    Default Re: Gutenberg Urkundentinten G10 Schwatz (iron gall)

    Actually, I quite like the colour - but I have a weakness for rather pale, dusty looking inks If it wasn't iron gall, I'd probably buy some!

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    Default Re: Gutenberg Urkundentinten G10 Schwatz (iron gall)

    Quote Originally Posted by mizgeorge View Post
    Actually, I quite like the colour - but I have a weakness for rather pale, dusty looking inks If it wasn't iron gall, I'd probably buy some!
    Glad you like it.
    What's wrong with it being IG?
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    Default Re: Gutenberg Urkundentinten G10 Schwatz (iron gall)

    Oh, I have nothing against Iron Gall, I just have too many pens inked at any given time, and can be pretty inefficient at cleaning most of them regularly enough to keep IG inks in. So I tend to just have two or three IG or pigment inks on the go at any given time, and try to stick to dye based (and pretty neutral ones at that) for the majority of of the time. It would be so much easier if I didn't love pretty colours (and murky ones too) quite so much!

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    Default Re: Gutenberg Urkundentinten G10 Schwatz (iron gall)

    Quote Originally Posted by mizgeorge View Post
    Oh, I have nothing against Iron Gall, I just have too many pens inked at any given time, and can be pretty inefficient at cleaning most of them regularly enough to keep IG inks in. So I tend to just have two or three IG or pigment inks on the go at any given time, and try to stick to dye based (and pretty neutral ones at that) for the majority of of the time. It would be so much easier if I didn't love pretty colours (and murky ones too) quite so much!
    Fair enough. I understand your dilemma. I'm going to be a bit naughty. You can put it in one of the pens you recommended to me, so there'll be no evaporation
    Joking apart. It's a very easy ink to clean....

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    Default Re: Gutenberg Urkundentinten G10 Schwatz (iron gall)

    It's kinda pale for an iron gall ink.
    I thought it would get darker as the oxidation continued.

    I do like the color

    Thank you for an interesting and comprehensive review.
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    Default Re: Gutenberg Urkundentinten G10 Schwatz (iron gall)

    Quote Originally Posted by penwash View Post
    It's kinda pale for an iron gall ink.
    I thought it would get darker as the oxidation continued.

    I do like the color

    Thank you for an interesting and comprehensive review.
    Thanks. My first bottle had gone bad. It didn't dry and it put an even paler line. But in time they turned darker, i.e. legible.
    However, this new bottle writes darkest with the vintage nibs. It's a finicky ink though, hard to classify.
    It needs to find the right pen and dare I say, right person

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