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    Default A JoWo is a JoWo is a JoWo?

    I have a Goulet JoWo medium #6 nib. I can't really tell any difference between it and the stock nibs that come in Jinhao pens, once the Jinhao nibs are tuned correctly. So, since JoWo makes Edison and Franklin-Christoph nibs, among others, is there any reason to pay more for an Edison, Franklin-Christoph, etc. nib? Are they really any better?

    In other words, is it true to say that a JoWo is a JoWo is a JoWo?

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    I think from a material stand point they are the same. The key difference is the tuning and testing which is best if part of the final pen. That tuning in the hands of someone that knows what they are doing makes it no just a JoWo.

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    Default Re: A JoWo is a JoWo is a JoWo?

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCyclePilot View Post
    I have a Goulet JoWo medium #6 nib. I can't really tell any difference between it and the stock nibs that come in Jinhao pens, once the Jinhao nibs are tuned correctly. So, since JoWo makes Edison and Franklin-Christoph nibs, among others, is there any reason to pay more for an Edison, Franklin-Christoph, etc. nib? Are they really any better?

    In other words, is it true to say that a JoWo is a JoWo is a JoWo?
    If I am not mistaken..............."all" Franklin Cristoph nibs go through QA before selling; standard, custom, etc. I have never received a so-so nib from them.

    Better than Pelikan, Pilot, Sailor, etc. in my view, I'm opinions vary
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingwiper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCyclePilot View Post
    I have a Goulet JoWo medium #6 nib. I can't really tell any difference between it and the stock nibs that come in Jinhao pens, once the Jinhao nibs are tuned correctly. So, since JoWo makes Edison and Franklin-Christoph nibs, among others, is there any reason to pay more for an Edison, Franklin-Christoph, etc. nib? Are they really any better?

    In other words, is it true to say that a JoWo is a JoWo is a JoWo?
    If I am not mistaken..............."all" Franklin Cristoph nibs go through QA before selling; standard, custom, etc. I have never received a so-so nib from them.

    Better than Pelikan, Pilot, Sailor, etc. in my view, I'm opinions vary
    I heard that. I think the same is supposedly true of Edison nibs as well.

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    Default Re: A JoWo is a JoWo is a JoWo?

    Quote Originally Posted by wingwiper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCyclePilot View Post
    I have a Goulet JoWo medium #6 nib. I can't really tell any difference between it and the stock nibs that come in Jinhao pens, once the Jinhao nibs are tuned correctly. So, since JoWo makes Edison and Franklin-Christoph nibs, among others, is there any reason to pay more for an Edison, Franklin-Christoph, etc. nib? Are they really any better?

    In other words, is it true to say that a JoWo is a JoWo is a JoWo?
    If I am not mistaken..............."all" Franklin Cristoph nibs go through QA before selling; standard, custom, etc. I have never received a so-so nib from them.

    Better than Pelikan, Pilot, Sailor, etc. in my view, I'm opinions vary
    Indeed. I have purchased several pens from Franklin-Christoph, and the nibs which Audrey tunes are excellent, to say the least.

    When it comes to special grinds, there is a huge difference between what you might find in a Jinhao X450 and what you find in a Franklin-Christoph. I am attaching a photo of the Franklin-Christoph 18K Masuyama Needlepoint, which is one of the most exquisite nibs I have ever used. It is in my favorite Bexley Poseidon II Magnum II. (As you can tell, this is one of my daily users - needs a good cleaning after a week of heavy use.). I am a bit partial to Linda at Indy-Pen-Dance when it comes to grinding and tuning of nibs. She is a real perfectionist, whether working on a steel or a gold nib.

    Remember that both JoWo and Bock, while manufacturing nibs for other companies, also builds these nibs to their specifications. So while they may appear “standard” from a casual look, small variabilities in the thickness of the nib material, flexibility, iridium point, grind, etc. may be entirely different for a particular customer. (Somebody correct me if I am incorrect, but Graf von Faber Castell nibs are technically Bock nibs. But they have a character quite unlike any nib I have ever used.). So whether it is manufacturing differences, or finishing / tuning / grind differences at the pen company, a nib from one company can indeed perform quite unlike another. And this is not just differences in the branding stamped or engraved on the nib.

    I hope this helps you in making a decision. In short, yes, there are advantages to some nibs over others.




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    Default Re: A JoWo is a JoWo is a JoWo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Radonactionservices View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wingwiper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCyclePilot View Post
    I have a Goulet JoWo medium #6 nib. I can't really tell any difference between it and the stock nibs that come in Jinhao pens, once the Jinhao nibs are tuned correctly. So, since JoWo makes Edison and Franklin-Christoph nibs, among others, is there any reason to pay more for an Edison, Franklin-Christoph, etc. nib? Are they really any better?

    In other words, is it true to say that a JoWo is a JoWo is a JoWo?
    If I am not mistaken..............."all" Franklin Cristoph nibs go through QA before selling; standard, custom, etc. I have never received a so-so nib from them.

    Better than Pelikan, Pilot, Sailor, etc. in my view, I'm opinions vary
    Indeed. I have purchased several pens from Franklin-Christoph, and the nibs which Audrey tunes are excellent, to say the least.

    When it comes to special grinds, there is a huge difference between what you might find in a Jinhao X450 and what you find in a Franklin-Christoph. I am attaching a photo of the Franklin-Christoph 18K Masuyama Needlepoint, which is one of the most exquisite nibs I have ever used. It is in my favorite Bexley Poseidon II Magnum II. (As you can tell, this is one of my daily users - needs a good cleaning after a week of heavy use.). I am a bit partial to Linda at Indy-Pen-Dance when it comes to grinding and tuning of nibs. She is a real perfectionist, whether working on a steel or a gold nib.

    Remember that both JoWo and Bock, while manufacturing nibs for other companies, also builds these nibs to their specifications. So while they may appear “standard” from a casual look, small variabilities in the thickness of the nib material, flexibility, iridium point, grind, etc. may be entirely different for a particular customer. (Somebody correct me if I am incorrect, but Graf von Faber Castell nibs are technically Bock nibs. But they have a character quite unlike any nib I have ever used.). So whether it is manufacturing differences, or finishing / tuning / grind differences at the pen company, a nib from one company can indeed perform quite unlike another. And this is not just differences in the branding stamped or engraved on the nib.

    I hope this helps you in making a decision. In short, yes, there are advantages to some nibs over others.




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    Default Re: A JoWo is a JoWo is a JoWo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Radonactionservices View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wingwiper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyCyclePilot View Post
    I have a Goulet JoWo medium #6 nib. I can't really tell any difference between it and the stock nibs that come in Jinhao pens, once the Jinhao nibs are tuned correctly. So, since JoWo makes Edison and Franklin-Christoph nibs, among others, is there any reason to pay more for an Edison, Franklin-Christoph, etc. nib? Are they really any better?

    In other words, is it true to say that a JoWo is a JoWo is a JoWo?
    If I am not mistaken..............."all" Franklin Cristoph nibs go through QA before selling; standard, custom, etc. I have never received a so-so nib from them.

    Better than Pelikan, Pilot, Sailor, etc. in my view, I'm opinions vary
    Indeed. I have purchased several pens from Franklin-Christoph, and the nibs which Audrey tunes are excellent, to say the least.

    When it comes to special grinds, there is a huge difference between what you might find in a Jinhao X450 and what you find in a Franklin-Christoph. I am attaching a photo of the Franklin-Christoph 18K Masuyama Needlepoint, which is one of the most exquisite nibs I have ever used. It is in my favorite Bexley Poseidon II Magnum II. (As you can tell, this is one of my daily users - needs a good cleaning after a week of heavy use.). I am a bit partial to Linda at Indy-Pen-Dance when it comes to grinding and tuning of nibs. She is a real perfectionist, whether working on a steel or a gold nib.

    Remember that both JoWo and Bock, while manufacturing nibs for other companies, also builds these nibs to their specifications. So while they may appear “standard” from a casual look, small variabilities in the thickness of the nib material, flexibility, iridium point, grind, etc. may be entirely different for a particular customer. (Somebody correct me if I am incorrect, but Graf von Faber Castell nibs are technically Bock nibs. But they have a character quite unlike any nib I have ever used.). So whether it is manufacturing differences, or finishing / tuning / grind differences at the pen company, a nib from one company can indeed perform quite unlike another. And this is not just differences in the branding stamped or engraved on the nib.

    I hope this helps you in making a decision. In short, yes, there are advantages to some nibs over others.




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    So far I only have two FC pens, with their standard steel nibs, both are decent. I spend a lot of time looking longingly at #penporn on Instagram, so many beautiful pens made by smaller pen companies….but I’ve been able to resist, as pretty as they all are, it’s just going to be another Jowo nib,and probably not as nice as the FC nibs. As much as I like the way a pen looks, no point in having it if I don’t love the way it writes. I’d rather just get another Franklin Christoph - maybe the next one with a gold stub. I feel like I can trust the company, that I’m going to get what I want when I order from them.

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    Default Re: A JoWo is a JoWo is a JoWo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Igraine View Post
    So far I only have two FC pens, with their standard steel nibs, both are decent. I spend a lot of time looking longingly at #penporn on Instagram, so many beautiful pens made by smaller pen companies….but I’ve been able to resist, as pretty as they all are, it’s just going to be another Jowo nib,and probably not as nice as the FC nibs. As much as I like the way a pen looks, no point in having it if I don’t love the way it writes. I’d rather just get another Franklin Christoph - maybe the next one with a gold stub. I feel like I can trust the company, that I’m going to get what I want when I order from them.
    Keep in mind one of the advantage of a custom pen is that it is...well...custom. If you want a pen with a different nib, it is being made especially for you, get it with the nib you want. I am currently waiting on a custom pen with a Visconti Pd nib and a threaded converter (the Visconti nibs don't have the converter nipple). The sky (and your wallet) should be the limits, not your imagination.

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