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    Black swan in English Roses


    I love inks with a story. This is one of them.

    The quintessential English rose, the Rose of York, is a white rose. Obviously this is not it.
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    However, Nathan’s inspiration of this ink is the memory of a British Lady who visited her mother’s garden when he was a child. And this ink is indeed a homage to her, the first British person he ever met. The lady avoided looking at the poppies, reminding her of the loss she endured during the great war and focused on the roses. One can say that Black Swan in English Roses is a poppy by extension, and the title and artwork englobe the ‘innocence” of prewar and the “coming of age” of post war.

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    This is an extremely well-behaved ink and ghosting and bleed through are non-existent even on Hillroy copy paper, which ghosts bic and pencil. Dry time is reasonable on non absorbent papers, though apparently in its earlier incarnations it was not.


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    Back
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    Ink is quite water resistant:
    BSiER - Water test - Before.jpeg
    After 15 seconds under running water
    Black Swan water test after.jpeg

    Sample text on Tome River 68gr
    Black Swan In English Roses - TR.jpg

    Hammermill
    Black Swan In English Roses - Hammermill 97.jpeg
    HP32 gr.
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    Comparaison
    BLackSWEnglis Roses -Compariason 1.jpg


    • Pen used: Noodler’s Ahab, Lamy Safari broad
    • Shading: Yes
    • Ghosting: None
    • Bleed through: None.
    • Flow Rate: Wet
    • Lubrication: Nice
    • Nib Dry-out:
    • Start-up:
    • Saturation: Rich and dark.
    • Shading delightful
    • Sheen: None, thankfully.
    • Spread None seen.
    • Nib Creep None
    • Staining: No.
    • Clogging: Nope
    • Water resistance: Water resistant
    • Availability: Only in bottle 90 ml bottles.
    Last edited by Yazeh; July 8th, 2021 at 05:47 PM.

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    Default Re: Black swan in English Roses

    Ohh, I REALLY like that color! Anderson pens show it as a crappy brown, which has always put me off from ordering a sample/bottle.

    https://andersonpens.com/noodlers-bl...nk-3oz-bottle/

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    Default Re: Black swan in English Roses

    Thanks. I'd forgotten about this ink. Have to get it out and stick it in something.

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    Default Re: Black swan in English Roses

    Quote Originally Posted by junglejim View Post
    Ohh, I REALLY like that color! Anderson pens show it as a crappy brown, which has always put me off from ordering a sample/bottle.

    https://andersonpens.com/noodlers-bl...nk-3oz-bottle/
    It's truly lovely ink.The swabs are often misleading. Note however that I use a wet Ahab flex and broad safari.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Brilliant Bill View Post
    Thanks. I'd forgotten about this ink. Have to get it out and stick it in something.
    It's fun to be reminded of what we have...

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    Quote Originally Posted by junglejim View Post
    Ohh, I REALLY like that color! Anderson pens show it as a crappy brown, which has always put me off from ordering a sample/bottle.

    https://andersonpens.com/noodlers-bl...nk-3oz-bottle/
    My sample of Black Swan in English Roses was a brick color.
    My other pen is a Montblanc.

    And my other blog is a tumblr!


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    Default Re: Black swan in English Roses

    Quote Originally Posted by junglejim View Post
    Ohh, I REALLY like that color! Anderson pens show it as a crappy brown, which has always put me off from ordering a sample/bottle.

    https://andersonpens.com/noodlers-bl...nk-3oz-bottle/
    Me too! I also thought it was quite brown compared with the Australian version

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Black swan in English Roses
    I love inks with a story. This is one of them.

    The quintessential English rose, the Rose of York, is a white rose. Obviously this is not it.
    Fingers crossed there are no members from Lancashire around here.
    Last edited by Chrissy; July 10th, 2021 at 03:05 AM.
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    Default Re: Black swan in English Roses

    I do enjoy your reviews Yazeh! Just not enough to make me buy this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    My sample of Black Swan in English Roses was a brick color.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post
    Me too! I also thought it was quite brown compared with the Australian version
    A brick for you... TR paper / Hammermill copy paper


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    Quote Originally Posted by mizgeorge View Post
    I do enjoy your reviews Yazeh! Just not enough to make me buy this one
    That's enough for me

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    Default Re: Black swan in English Roses

    Saw the review, watched the video. Heaven help me....someone! stop me from buying this!
    My other pen is a Montblanc.

    And my other blog is a tumblr!


    And my latest ebook, for spooky wintery reading:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CM2NGSSD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    Saw the review, watched the video. Heaven help me....someone! stop me from buying this!
    You don't like brick colour

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    Default Re: Black swan in English Roses

    Very nice.
    Same color as the off-brand "Cherry Cola" I drank as a kid in NYC...
    "I can only improve my self, not the world."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detman101 View Post
    Very nice.
    Same color as the off-brand "Cherry Cola" I drank as a kid in NYC...
    I have to admit the few times, I had cherry cola, I drank it straight from the can. I had no idea what it looked like, but I trust you on that....

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    Default Re: Black swan in English Roses

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Detman101 View Post
    Very nice.
    Same color as the off-brand "Cherry Cola" I drank as a kid in NYC...
    I have to admit the few times, I had cherry cola, I drank it straight from the can. I had no idea what it looked like, but I trust you on that....
    Hehe...I'm famous for playing with my food/drinks (all my old friends hated it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Detman101 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Detman101 View Post
    Very nice.
    Same color as the off-brand "Cherry Cola" I drank as a kid in NYC...
    I have to admit the few times, I had cherry cola, I drank it straight from the can. I had no idea what it looked like, but I trust you on that....
    Hehe...I'm famous for playing with my food/drinks (all my old friends hated it).
    I can see now you're playing with your inks.... I don't mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy View Post

    Fingers crossed there are no members from Lancashire around here.
    That would be me, though I do live in Yorkshire now.



    I haven't tried English Roses, but I do enjoy the Australian.

    Thank you for the review, Yazeh.
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    Thanks Malcolm.
    I don't want to start another war...

    My peace offering... York and Lancaster, though according to some it was bred in what is now, Belgium... (I might be starting another war )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazeh View Post
    Thanks Malcolm.
    I don't want to start another war...

    My peace offering... York and Lancaster, though according to some it was bred in what is now, Belgium... (I might be starting another war )
    I just wouldn't have gone there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Kenshin View Post
    Saw the review, watched the video. Heaven help me....someone! stop me from buying this!
    do it... buy the ink...

    Quote Originally Posted by Detman101 View Post
    Very nice.
    Same color as the off-brand "Cherry Cola" I drank as a kid in NYC...
    ... now I have this stuck in my head.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6QwYzPKOZw

    but I guess that's ok, since I love that band.

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    Default Re: Black swan in English Roses

    Lovely work, as we are getting used to!

    However, count me in on the crowd a bit baffled by the color. I started using these inks 10-11 years ago. I had bottles of both English Roses and Australian Roses. I used them both, but AU was the one that leaned dark purple, and English was most *definitely* a dark brown undernote, unmistakable when the two were next to each other. I am seriously questioning if the formula has changed over time or if your bottle was mislabeled. It doesn't matter in the long run, unless it is incorrect and you buy another and get a different look!

    I eventually gave away my English, not enjoying the brown tones, and have kept AU Roses as one of only 2-3 Noodlers inks I have kept in my inventory over the last decade. I will look to see if I kept a sample vial of the English and do a comparison. There are so many past reviews of this ink in the brown spectrum that I don't think it can be chalked up to poor scanning, etc.

    Anyway, the bottom line is it is a nice review. A rose by any other name, eh?
    Last edited by Jon Szanto; July 10th, 2021 at 12:01 PM.
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