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    Hi all - I love my Nakaya pens, but when I'm working and not at my desk (my desk is in the attic and under the virtually uninsulated roof it's hot), I am annoyed by screwing tops on and off. So I wonder if anyone with the Platinum slip and seal top can tell me - can you just slide the cap on and off? From the photos it looks as if they have threads. If one can just slip the cap on, that would speed up things a lot.

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    Nope, it's a threaded cap. The seal works very well, and... well, I can put the cap on the pen and, holding the small end of the barrel to 'spin', have the cap in place in two small movements. Is that really a major complication to your life when it keeps the pen from drying out?
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    Thanks Jon! Yes, I teach literature, and I am constantly jumping from reading to jotting a note, then back to reading - I have a desk pen with holder on my desk so I don't have to futz with caps. But I am glued to my air conditioning these hot months, and I don't want to juggle the beautiful urushi trumpet holder. Back to the drawing board! Thanks again!

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    Yeah, good luck you are up against the laws of physics and nature. Anything that seals really well against dryout is going to have some reasonably secure method of closure. You are caught between a rock and a hard place. Best of luck.
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    Lamy 2000. Slip cap with a killer seal. I left mine at work when we went into lockdown. 12 weeks later, I retrieved it, pulled off the cap and it wrote perfectly from the first stroke. The kicker? Inked with Diamine Regsitrars.
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    Now that I think about it, a Franklin-Christoph Model 20 might be worth looking at - completely slip-fit. I've only recently purchased one (used) and it works remarkably well.
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    Wow, that is some seal! I am looking for Platinum because I am unadventurous about brands - I started with Pelikan in 1978, and as of now I own pens of exactly four brands. Oh well, I have always had a curmudgeonly streak, and have arrived at the age where it is appropriate to be one! I might try the Platinum maki-e series, which seems to have a slip cap. Thanks!

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    If you want to stick with Platinum, the Plaisir has a snap cap. I know it is a cheap pen, but the seal is every bit as good as that on their higher end models. ASD, on FPN, has left them for months on end inked with pigment inks and they wrote without issue: he swears by them.

    This review covers this feature, as well as other aspects of the pen: https://www.penchalet.com/reviews/pl...en_review.html
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    I assume you've seen the Pilot Vanishing Point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    I assume you've seen the Pilot Vanishing Point.
    You missed the part about the OP wanting to stick with Platinum as a brand.
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    I used to own the ribbed Platinum 3776 that had a slip cap.

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    I find the Plaisir a bit cheap looking (too much chrome) but have several Prefountes, which are incredibly inoffensive, have slip caps and seal perfectly. I use them for 'difficult' inks, particularly pigment/IG inks that I use less often but like to keep in a few pens for occasions when I need a waterproof ink. They happily go for weeks, even months, without use and I've never had a moment's problem with hard starts or skipping. The steel nibs work immaculately straight out of the box and they're actually much better made than their price would suggest.

    They only come in a small range of colours, but enough to match up for marking up inks and writing inks and at $10 or thereabouts are extraordinary value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    I assume you've seen the Pilot Vanishing Point.
    I owned one of these, and a decimo, and both would dry out if left unused for anything longer than a lunchbreak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    I assume you've seen the Pilot Vanishing Point.
    I owned one of these, and a decimo, and both would dry out if left unused for anything longer than a lunchbreak.
    Hmm. I never had a problem with my xf nibbed (older faceted) one.

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    I wonder if it one of the penturners could make you a cap with an O-ring that would fit your Nakaya and be more portable than your stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    I wonder if it one of the penturners could make you a cap with an O-ring that would fit your Nakaya and be more portable than your stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by empliau View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    I wonder if it one of the penturners could make you a cap with an O-ring that would fit your Nakaya and be more portable than your stand.

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    Ooh, that would be a dream! Thanks for the great idea.
    If you give it a try, please report back.

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    The Platinum 3776 has one pen which is a slip cap, the 'gathered', black ribbed pen. I don't believe they make it now but there are still ebayers in Japan selling them. I'm rather fond of mine but I do occasionally forget the difference and get mystified why the cap is not unscrewing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by amk View Post
    The Platinum 3776 has one pen which is a slip cap, the 'gathered', black ribbed pen. I don't believe they make it now but there are still ebayers in Japan selling them. I'm rather fond of mine but I do occasionally forget the difference and get mystified why the cap is not unscrewing!
    I'm just checking, but are you certain it is a slip cap? I had a Nakaya Briarwood model, essentially identical to a Platinum version, and the cap would be what I commonly refer to as a snap or click cap: you slide it on until the mechanism clips over an edge and holds the cap in place. In a true slip cap (old vintage pens, F-C Model 20), the barrel is tapered precisely and the cap slowly slides into place until it makes a tight fit. I believe, because of the tolerances, that a well made slip cap seals the pen more effectively. In fact, I don't have the Nakaya any more because it did *not* do a good job of sealing and the pen dried out between uses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Szanto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amk View Post
    The Platinum 3776 has one pen which is a slip cap, the 'gathered', black ribbed pen. I don't believe they make it now but there are still ebayers in Japan selling them. I'm rather fond of mine but I do occasionally forget the difference and get mystified why the cap is not unscrewing!
    I'm just checking, but are you certain it is a slip cap? I had a Nakaya Briarwood model, essentially identical to a Platinum version, and the cap would be what I commonly refer to as a snap or click cap: you slide it on until the mechanism clips over an edge and holds the cap in place. In a true slip cap (old vintage pens, F-C Model 20), the barrel is tapered precisely and the cap slowly slides into place until it makes a tight fit. I believe, because of the tolerances, that a well made slip cap seals the pen more effectively. In fact, I don't have the Nakaya any more because it did *not* do a good job of sealing and the pen dried out between uses.
    Correct...My ribbed platinum was a click. I guess a true slip would be a Parker 51 or the Conid Minimalistica.

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    M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
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    M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
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    M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
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