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    Default Re: Preserve, protect and defend

    COVID-19 loves evangelicals, Republicans, and anti-vaccine fools, I mean folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
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    Gotta do whatever it takes.
    Dictatorship is an underlying theme/goal of Uncle Joe.
    Funny, that sounds kinda familiar.
    Oddly, that’s never characterized his career. He’s certainly got his faults, but so far not an autocrat.
    Chuck,
    Go back and read the cited examples in this topic.
    By any means necessary? Ignore the rule of law?
    Yup, pretty darn autocratic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazoolaw View Post
    Ignore the rule of law?
    Yup, pretty darn autocratic.
    That's not what your example shows.
    Last edited by TSherbs; November 19th, 2021 at 04:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazoolaw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kazoolaw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    Gotta do whatever it takes.
    Dictatorship is an underlying theme/goal of Uncle Joe.
    Funny, that sounds kinda familiar.
    Oddly, that’s never characterized his career. He’s certainly got his faults, but so far not an autocrat.
    Chuck,
    Go back and read the cited examples in this topic.
    By any means necessary? Ignore the rule of law?
    Yup, pretty darn autocratic.
    Please stop with asking me to read somerthing or worse, watch some damn video you've found that you've chosen to post, Kazzy baby. Biden is not nor had ever been an autocrat. However, don't let me stop you from thinking so.

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    chuck,
    With all kindness, if you don't know what the topic is please go post where you know what's being discussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
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    Ignore the rule of law?
    Yup, pretty darn autocratic.
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    That's not what your example shows.
    That's what all the examples, singly and aggregated, demonstrate.

    Unless you're adopting the Truman doctrine. See, Share your favorite Quote, post 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazoolaw View Post
    chuck,
    With all kindness, if you don't know what the topic is please go post where you know what's being discussed.
    Thank you for your kindness, but I am not sure you are qualified to say what I know or don't know judging from your posts and threads. Just saying Kazzy Babby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazoolaw View Post
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    Ignore the rule of law?
    Yup, pretty darn autocratic.
    [/SIZE][/FONT]
    That's not what your example shows.
    That's what all the examples, singly and aggregated, demonstrate.
    No, they don't. You're summarizing in hyperbole. From your very first post you are exaggerating. It's not "ignoring the rule of law" to use legal practice and delays to your advantage. It's not failure to uphold the Constitution. It's not failure to abide by the Presidential Oath of Office. It is not impeachable, or whatever. It is none of these exaggerations.

    This is like saying that delaying a hearing on a Supreme Court nominee is a violation of the Constitution (some people claim this). It is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    COVID-19 loves evangelicals, Republicans, and anti-vaccine fools, I mean folks.
    I am none of these. Just someone who values freedom. We will see what the public thinks in the up coming election (2022/2024).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
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    Ignore the rule of law?
    Yup, pretty darn autocratic.
    [/SIZE][/FONT]
    That's not what your example shows.
    That's what all the examples, singly and aggregated, demonstrate.
    No, they don't. You're summarizing in hyperbole. From your very first post you are exaggerating. It's not "ignoring the rule of law" to use legal practice and delays to your advantage. It's not failure to uphold the Constitution. It's not failure to abide by the Presidential Oath of Office. It is not impeachable, or whatever. It is none of these exaggerations.

    This is like saying that delaying a hearing on a Supreme Court nominee is a violation of the Constitution (some people claim this). It is not.
    TS, TS,
    Clearly you still haven't read the Fifth Circuit opinion with it's withering opinion of Joe's constitutional acumen.
    Bt the way, you anywhere near Fort Fairfield?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bold2013 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    COVID-19 loves evangelicals, Republicans, and anti-vaccine fools, I mean folks.
    I am none of these. Just someone who values freedom. We will see what the public thinks in the up coming election (2022/2024).
    Yep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bold2013 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    COVID-19 loves evangelicals, Republicans, and anti-vaccine fools, I mean folks.
    I am none of these. Just someone who values freedom. We will see what the public thinks in the up coming election (2022/2024).
    We all value freedom. You are incorrect to suggest otherwise. So much of this thread is about staking out extreme positions, further emphasizing the political divide (erroneously, I would say).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    Biden is not nor had ever been an autocrat.
    Like you said, he has other flaws, but this isn't one of them.



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    It's not for lack of trying.


    "The Plaintiff States also argue that CMS’s rationale is flagrantly pretextual. The
    Government Defendants say it is not pretextual, but it is obvious that the mandate was enacted as
    a result of President Biden’s September 9, 2021, declaration of his intention to impose a national
    CMS Mandate.
    33 Both the CMS and OSHA vaccine mandates were published on the same day,
    November 5, 2021. However, the 46-page CMS Mandate does not even mention President
    Biden’s declaration of a national vaccine mandate. The presence of pretext is enough to render a
    rule arbitrary and capricious." [emphasis added]

    ***

    "If the separation of powers meant anything to the Constitutional framers, it meant that the
    three necessary ingredients to deprive a person of liberty or property – the power to make rules,
    to enforce them, and to judge their violations – could never fall into the same hands. If the Executive branch is allowed to usurp the power of the Legislative branch to
    make laws, two of the three powers conferred by the Constitution would be in the same hands.
    If human nature and history teach anything, it is that civil liberties face grave risks when
    governments proclaim indefinite states of emergency.
    During a pandemic such as this one, it is even more important to safeguard the separation
    of powers set forth in our Constitution to avoid erosion of our liberties." [citations deleted]

    Louisiana vs Becerra, et al, USDC Western District of Louisiana

    The first excerpt addresses the autocratic imposition of a mandate, while the second demonstrates that the attempt was made contrary to the Constitutional concept of separation of powers.

    Interestingly, Dr. Jay Bhattachary is cited in the decision as well.

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    Default Re: Preserve, protect and defend

    Kaz, what’s the message you hoped to convey?

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    Just what I said:

    "The first excerpt addresses the autocratic imposition of a mandate, while the second demonstrates that the attempt was made contrary to the Constitutional concept of separation of powers."

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    I’ll put forward the same question as I posed, to which he ignored, to @dneal, what you do?

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    Default Re: Preserve, protect and defend

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    ...what you do?
    Is that a sentence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazoolaw View Post
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    ...what you do?
    Is that a sentence?
    Had you posted the same, I would have understood the intend and responded. Don’t bother, I understand you’re a stuffed shirt😉😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kazoolaw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    ...what you do?
    Is that a sentence?
    Had you posted the same, I would have understood the intend and responded. Don’t bother, I understand you’re a stuffed shirt😉😉
    Didn't think you thought it was a sentence either.
    You would have been responding to your understanding of my comment.
    I'd rather know what you mean before responding.

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