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    Default Re: The cult of “anti racism” has fully taken over the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by kazoolaw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TSherbs View Post
    Thanks, Welch, for educating all of us.

    Kazoo: It doesn't matter to me how many pleasant emails, at other times, Gruden composed (and 650k isn't how many Gruden wrote, I don't believe. It is the total collected from the WFT account, as I understand it, some of which--I have no idea how many--were to and from Gruden). As at my place of employment, arguing that I usually or nearly often or 1 million other times have written acceptable emails will not excuse me from the consequences of violating my employee contract, even just once if it is considered egregious enough.

    Are you suggesting that Gruden has been treated unfairly, because....why?
    Not even close. My point was that 1(1) we can't be sure how many other offensive Gruden emails there were, (2) no one has disclosed how many others wrote similar or worse emails, and (3) why haven't ALL of the emails been disclosed?

    None of your comments in your first paragraph reflect my thinking. At your workplace and mine it's clear we have no right to privacy in what are corporate property. Reread the first paragraph of Welch's quoted article and my comment about only the smallest sample has been made public.


    Using this forum as an analogy, if someone were out to get me banned, and in the process of gathering my offensive posts, you get banned because of your offensive posts. Then someone says, what about Kazoo"s other offensive posts that were not tagged. Is this what you are asking? Or, some asks, why was only chuck naill's offensive posts singled out while other memnbers may have done the same or worse. We had a saying in a company I was with once that said, "if they want to get rid of you they will find a reason". Being fair or thorough was never the goal.

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    Default Re: The cult of “anti racism” has fully taken over the NFL

    Assume that FPG has 650,000 emails. FPG owns them and hosts them.

    An outside agency is going to audit/investigate those emails for "bad things" [fill in yours of choice, or use all the bad things welch listed in his posts]

    It looks at the emails, finds two by CN [they're bad] and releases them. People are outraged and CN leaves FPG.

    Recall, the original investigation was of FPG, not CN. Funny how just those two emails leaked out. What's in the other 649,998 emails? Who else sent or received those emails? Who was cc'd and did nothing? Why is FPG withholding all the rest of the emails?

    No analogy is perfect, certainly not mine. But I think that in a broad overstatement kind of way it gives the gist of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kazoolaw View Post
    Assume that FPG has 650,000 emails. FPG owns them and hosts them.

    An outside agency is going to audit/investigate those emails for "bad things" [fill in yours of choice, or use all the bad things welch listed in his posts]

    It looks at the emails, finds two by CN [they're bad] and releases them. People are outraged and CN leaves FPG.

    Recall, the original investigation was of FPG, not CN. Funny how just those two emails leaked out. What's in the other 649,998 emails? Who else sent or received those emails? Who was cc'd and did nothing? Why is FPG withholding all the rest of the emails?

    No analogy is perfect, certainly not mine. But I think that in a broad overstatement kind of way it gives the gist of it.

    I don't know much about analogies, so I suspect that

    - the two emails are typical of what Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen wrote, since we know about the woman-hating organization that Snyder built

    - the NFL wants to shield Snyder from any more embarrassment, as if it's not embarrassment enough that Snyder settle a suit claiming that he sexually assaulted a woman who worked for him

    - further evidence of the shielding being that the NFL insisted on a presentation from its investigator, Beth Wilkinson, rather than a written report

    - the NFL will not, no way, no how, not ever release a detailed report on the Redskins; the NFL will never release the rest of the emails

    - the two Gruden emails were leaked for reasons that none of us can guess. Maybe a move by NFL owners to help the head of the players' union? That's the guy Gruden insulted to Bruce Allen. Someone searching for evidence against Gruden alone? Dan Snyder, the guy who sued an elderly widow demanding that she pay for her next season tickets? She lost a lot of money in the Crash of 2008 and tried to get out of season ticket holding. Was Snyder trying to shift attention, again, to his ex-buddy, Bruce Allen?

    - all of the above being a reason that the Snyders decided, on three or four days' notice, to retire Sean Taylor's number 21 this past Sunday. Taylor, for non-NFL fans, was a very good safety for the Redskins for four years, but nothing like the other two with retired numbers: Sammy Baugh, who perfected the forward pass into an offensive weapon; Bobby Mitchell, an All Pro running back and wide receiver, and the first black player for the Washington Redskins...although discussing founding owner George Preston Marshall might take us far away from Jon Gruden.

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    Default Re: The cult of “anti racism” has fully taken over the NFL

    I know there are many fans and lots of money, but beyond that, it’s a pretty stupid game, that I admit to playing, that can’t be played without a watch and cameras.

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    Breaking: NFL has removed all bad coaches and players. One man left standing.
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    Reminds me of the Genesis story of Sodom.

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    Default Re: The cult of “anti racism” has fully taken over the NFL

    Some wrote the real NFL is an “okay cutlture”.

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    Default Re: The cult of “anti racism” has fully taken over the NFL

    HS football is a good fast game, over in an hour and 15 - 20 minutes.

    Pro and Collage football used to be the same back when the split screen showing the split end was the new thing. Back when Color TV was affordable for the middle class.
    Now you have 3 hours and more.

    The Commercial Bowl is a here in Germany a 4 hour bore, we don't get to see the commercials; just men standing around in large ovals waiting for a game break. I normally fall to sleep so don't know if we get the 30 minute half time show with no commercials....don't know what they show in the meanwhile between acts.

    And with all the crud going on with the raciest America back to the past of 1955, how can it be ignored that being raciest went out in 1985..... when Randall Cunningham proved blacks were not too stupid to play pro QB.

    The fired coach, was born in '63....so should have grown up less racist, but didn't. I am an American living in Germany and am so shocked, we have not advanced, in fact fallen back into such racism.
    As a child, I remember thinking it was so unfair, the Colored Water fountain had warm water and the White's Only had cold water, on a scotching Mississippi summer day.
    Couldn't afford going to a restaurant, so it didn't bother me the blacks couldn't go to one. When one is 11-12 one is blind and dumb. What's the excuse today????

    One kept good care of school books, in when they was old, the colored got them. So one had pride they got real good looking old used school books. Not taking good care of school books was a beating worth of buying one.

    Even then any kid with any sense knew murdering Evers was wrong, or any of the other KKK murders. What's the excuse today?

    Banning little kid school books about King, and some other black person. Saying they were actually people....burn the books........that is done right after books are banned.

    Racism...as a theme....I thought they were beating a dead horse. But they weren't. White racism to foreign press was submerged until four years ago........and now racism's back to full strength.....

    Just to make sure I anger everyone, there is just as much black racism or so it appears to a distant white guy.
    We Americans did not grow up in the 30-40 years I was away.

    In any southern woman with any brains will move to freedom, there will be a lot more San Francisco men's bars down south. LOL cubed.
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    Default Re: The cult of “anti racism” has fully taken over the NFL

    I’m a bit lost on the last poster’s intent.

    A racism definition is broad. MLK noted he had white supporters who won’t want their children involved with a black person.

    And, if a dark skinned person is an ass, they are an ass. No racism required.

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    Jon Gruden has sued the NFL for destroying his career. I hope that Gruden will get all 650,000 emails that the Wilkinson - NFL investigation reviewed before it found that Dan Snyder, owner of the Redskins, had created a "toxic work environment", a Gowanus ("most polluted body of water in the US") of an organization. Offhand, I suspect that the Snyders leaked the emails as a way to hurt Bruce Allen, Snyder's GM and best buddy for about ten years.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...roger-goodell/

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    Gruden has the right to say anything he wants in his private communications, but as a coach who works for a team, he should realize that he is also seen as representing his organization. Not sure how stupid or compulsive you have to be for that not to register, but he evidently was so invested in spewing venom (given the nod-and-wink culture of pro sports) that he felt immune.

    Good riddance.

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    We don't need Gruden or pro football. But everyone is entitled to their day in court, as long as the case isn't frivolous.

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    I have to agree, life is short and giving one second to Gruden's situation is the waste of precious resources. If you want to follow sports, be a coach in you community as a volunteer. Join a running club. Join a target shooting group.

    I was discussing Simon Bile's with a friend. Did anyone ask about where her parents were in all these sexual abuses?

    Fact is, I think many who play professional sports, it's all they can do. Their universities didn't demand much or give much. What college coaches make, what is spent on sports, and the cost of higher education is a national shame.

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    "A truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged."

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    Since too many people have no idea of Dan Snyder and his Washington Deadskins other than that Dan and Tanya probably released the Gruden emails as a way to stab their GM and team president Bruce Allen because, well, that's what the Snyders do, here is an article from more than a decade ago, after Tanya Snyder said that Dan had "evolved" during his ownership of the Deadskins.

    https://washingtoncitypaper.com/arti...to-dan-snyder/

    So before we welcome the New Dan Snyder, let’s look back at the one we know. That’s the Dan Snyder who left his mark, or stain, on more than just a football team. That’s the Dan Snyder who got caught forging names as a telemarketer with Snyder Communications, made a great view of the Potomac River for himself by going all Agent Orange on federally protected lands, and lost over $121 million of Bill Gates’ money while selling an “official mattress” while in charge of Six Flags. That’s the Dan Snyder I’ve found to be the most fascinating and consistent man on the planet, responsible for the hilarious and/or heinous deeds outlined in the following pages.
    The writer's comment about "federally protected lands" refers to Snyder's having cut down trees across a path down to the Potomac River. The Snyders have a mansion above the river, but those nasty trees, the ones that you and I and the American people owned, had aggressively grown themselves to block his view.

    8-3: Record Marty Schottenheimer posted in the last 11 games of the 2001 season, his first as head coach of the Washington Redskins. Snyder fired him anyway.

    $10: Amount Snyder charged fans for admission to the team’s workouts during the 2000 training camp at Redskins Park in Ashburn. He also charged another $10 to park, thereby becoming the first owner in NFL history to use team practice as a gouging mechanism.
    $20: Price Snyder affixed to “Redskins Mania,” the first Redskins scratch lottery ticket in 2009, making it as expensive as any scratcher ever offered by the Virginia Lottery. The campaign flopped.

    $25: Price Snyder charged for a special group of standing-room-only tickets at FedExField in 2008. The cheap tickets were linked to the high-priced suites; lobbying watchdogs said Snyder was merely attempting to skirt congressional gift limits. Damning evidence: A team brochure for instructing ticket sales personnel to explain lobbying loopholes to suite customers. Snyder denied the charge. SRO tickets now sell for $152.50, with no mention of lobbying in the sales pitch.
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    “A Long Time”: Thirteen weeks, in Snyder-speak. During training camp in 2000, ESPN asked Snyder how long Norv Turner, who had just coached the Redskins to an NFC East title, would be in his employ. “A long time,” Snyder said. He fired Turner with three games left in the season, despite the Redskins’ winning record.

    American Enterprise Institute: Conservative thinktank that summed up Snyder’s football operation as a “leading exemplar of this tendency toward irrationality” in a 2006 report. Kevin Hassett, director of economic policy studies at AEI, cited Snyder for running a “seriously mismanaged” operation. “I used the Redskins because they’re the most frightening example of a team that hadn’t thought through the simple economics of pro football,” Hassett said at the time. “The problems of running a pro football team are right out of the textbooks: With the salary cap, everybody’s got the same amount of money to spend, so let’s see what you’re going to do with your money. The big signing is counter to the economics of pro football. Over time, [Snyder is] spending the same amount of money as everybody else, but he’s spending it irrationally. I think they’re years away from correcting the mistakes they’ve made.”

    Andyman: Fake name widely believed to be used by top Redskins officials to post anti-media rants on fan message boards. In 2005, Washington City Paper reported that Karl Swanson, Snyder’s longtime PR chief, had registered on sportsjournalists.com, a website where Andyman often sniped at The Washington Post. Andyman, which could be Pig Latin for Danny M (Snyder’s first name, middle initial) all but disappeared after the report.

    B


    Bankrupt Airline Peanuts: What Snyder was selling to fans at FedExField. During the 2006 season, vendors offered shelled nuts in royal blue and white 5 oz. bags adorned with the Independence Air logo. Problem: The airline had gone under about a year earlier. The supplier told Washington City Paper that it stopped shipping the airline’s nuts “before Independence Air went out of business.” A spokesman for the Peanut Council told City Paper that to prevent rancidity, the recommended shelf life of a foil bag of out-of-shell peanuts was “about three months.”

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    Casserly, Charley: Redskins general manager who played a lead role in assembling the 1991 Super Bowl championship team. Snyder fired him in 1999 to clear space for Vinny Cerrato, who played lead role in 1994 feature film Kindergarten Ninja.

    Conflict of Interest: What Snyder created by employing members of the D.C. media to work for Redskins Broadcast Network, wholly owned by the team. Among the many journalists who worked for Snyder while also reporting on his Redskins for major news outlets: George Michael, Michael Wilbon, Dan Hellie, Wally Bruckner, Andy Pollin, Lindsay Czarniak, Brett Haber.

    D

    Dan-Jazeera: How Al Koken, a former employee of Snyder-owned sports station WTEM, describes the Redskins owner’s media operation.

    Dumb and Dumber: Nickname fans gave Snyder and longtime racquetball/Six Flags investment partner Vinny Cerrato in 2009 season.

    Diageo: World’s largest liquor company and a business partner of Snyder’s. They paired up in a massive 2002 sponsorship deal that placed liquor advertising inside FedExField in the sight lines of network cameras, as well as local TV commercials during Redskins games. George Hacker of the Alcohol Policies Project, a program of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, was among the anti-drinking advocates who called the pact an attempted end-run by Snyder and Diageo around longstanding prohibitions on booze advertising. “Airing ads for Smirnoff Ice and Captain Morgan’s Gold during Redskin telecasts trumpets liquor brands and enables Diageo to sidestep the networks’ voluntary ban on hard liquor ads,” Hacker wrote. Snyder and Diageo remain partners.

    E

    “Emulate Charlie Chan”: What Asian actors trying out for a mascot job at Snyder-run Six Flags were allegedly told during 2008 auditions. After the 2006 firing of Mr. Six, the longtime mascot Snyder deemed “creepy,” the theme park chain’s marketing team hired a Japanese actor to scream “More flags! More fun!” in a vaguely Asian accent in TV commercials. The Chicago chapter of the Japanese American Citizens League, which publicized the “Charlie Chan” angle, was among the advocacy groups critical of the effort. The campaign was canceled very shortly after its debut.

    Entertainment Tax: Ten percent fee Prince George’s County collects as part of the deal that put the stadium there. The fee, like all assorted tariffs, had historically been included in the ticket price. After buying the Redskins, Snyder removed those charges from the printed price, moving them to the invoice. The move coincided with the biggest ticket price hike in team history. The biggest losers in Snyder’s removal of fees were street sellers, since “face value” of a ticket was no longer its actual retail price.


    “Ewwwww!”: How Barbara Hyde, spokeswoman for the American Society for Microbiology, reacted to last year’s news that Snyder’s vendors were selling beer in the bathrooms. Fans had been alleging that the Redskins were hawking lager in the loo long before a YouTube video surfaced in October 2009. Hyde said that because microbiological bad actors like E. coli hang out in the men’s room, beer vendors shouldn’t.

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    Fan Appreciation Day: Gimmick used in 2006 by Snyder to draw people to FedExField, where he charged $25 to park to watch the team scrimmage and hear an address from Vinny Cerrato. The parking charge was not mentioned in the advertisements the team produced for the event.

    Flat-Screen TV: What Snyder said he’d deliver to Laveranues Coles in the 2005 preseason. The gift was part of a threat from the owner to keep the receiver out of football if he didn’t agree to give up a $5 million bonus called for by his contract so that Snyder could trade him. “He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I’d be better off watching the games there,” Coles told Sports Illustrated in 2005. “That was his way of saying I’d be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me.”

    G

    Gates, Bill: Formerly world’s richest man. But he’s not as rich as he would be had he not done business with Snyder. One of Six Flags’ biggest stockholders, Gates had 10,210,600 shares worth about $122 million in early 2006, when Snyder began putting his marketing team in place. They were worth $0—zilch, zip, nada—by the time Snyder was tossed off the board last year. “Bill Gates gives away more money than anybody, and his main cause is malaria,” said a representative of Resilient Capital Management, a hedge fund and Six Flags investor, which sued to have Snyder removed from the company for fiduciary irresponsibility. “That was money that could have gone to save kids from malaria.”


    GEICO: Insurance company and major Redskins sponsor. Snyder allowed GEICO to hand out promotional signs at FedExField last season at the same time the team had instructed stadium security to take away home-made signage, much of it involving derogatory comments about Snyder and Cerrato. David Donovan, Snyder’s attorney, said the sign ban was for “safety.”

    George, Jeff: Quarterback and one of many Snyder-era free agent busts. Snyder brought George to D.C. on the advice of friend and former Redskins star Sonny Jurgensen. Terry Bradshaw pooh-poohed the George signing on the FOX pregame show: “Both Jurgensen and George have one thing in common—they’ve never won anything,” said the four-time Super Bowl winner.

    Guest House: Dwelling on Snyder’s Potomac estate where prospective employees stay overnight during job interviews.

    H


    Helicopter: Favored method of transportation Snyder used to drop into Redskins practices in 1999 in Frostburg, Md., after taking control of the team.

    Herzog, Frank: Beloved former Redskins play-by-play announcer. Herzog was best known for signature call, “Touchdown, Washington Redskins!” He was replaced in Snyder’s Redskins Broadcasting booth in 2004 by Larry Michael, best known for saying “Brought to you by Subway! If you love bacon come into Subway! Eat fresh!” [Welch note: Michael was fired for sexual assault of numerous female Deadskin employees, revealed in the Washington Post series that revealed the "toxic environment" inside the team, the series that led to the NFL investigation after which the Deadskins probably leaked emails by Bruce Allen and Jon Gruden]

    Hill, Pat: Down-on-her-luck 73-year-old grandmother—and five-decade Redskins season-ticketholder—who was sued by the Redskins in 2009 because she could not afford to keep up payments on the 10-year, $50,000-plus club seats contract she’d signed. [Welch note: she had lost her money in the 2008 financial collapse]

    Hurricane Katrina: Storm that Snyder used as an excuse to get out of the 75-year lease Six Flags had with the city of New Orleans. Snyder took over the company shortly after the storm inundated much of the city; he immediately let it be known he wouldn’t be coming back. “If any company is trying to figure out an exit strategy, they are,” New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said of Snyder’s abandonment. Six Flags never reopened. Snyder rented the park to the Department of Homeland Security. Last year, the city fined Six Flags $3 million for breaking the lease and took over the property.

    I

    Inside the Red Zone With Vinny Cerrato: WTEM radio show featuring top Snyder aide that debuted early in the 2008 season, shortly after Snyder had bought what was then D.C.’s only sports-radio station. Because of abuse from Skins fans, Cerrato quickly stopped taking calls. He later stopped showing up at all on Mondays after Skins’ losses. The show didn’t return for the 2009 season.

    [Note: Vinny Cerrato, mentioned several times, was Dan Snyder's Football Buddy and official fall guy until about 2011, when Snyder replaced him with Bruce Allen. All of the two or three emails that mention Jon Gruden came from the NFL's investigation into the sexual assault cesspool that Snyder was found to have run. Gruden seems to have been hit by Snyder's attempt to hurt Allen, his next fall guy.]
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    Continuation of "Dan Snyder A - Z"

    J

    Johnson, Brad: Quarterback who in 1999 led the Redskins to their only division title of the last 20 seasons. Benched in favor of Snyder favorite Jeff George a year later. “I think that decision’s made from up top,” Johnson said as George took his place. “I think it’s obvious.”

    Junk: How the bond rating service Moody’s rated the notes Snyder sold in a cash-raising scheme in August 2010 for his Dick Clark Productions. The Wall Street Journal reported the lousy rating came from Snyder selling “$165 million in notes in a deal that originally was supposed to be $150 million.”

    K

    Kennedy, Robert F.: Namesake for the former Redskins stadium—and current “party deck” at FedExField. Tickets to this standing-room only section cost $152.50 and include access to a cigar bar and a Hooters, among other come-ons. Snyder dropped “RFK” from the marketing pitch after Kennedy family announced its displeasure in Washington City Paper.

    Knott, Rene: D.C. sportscaster who in 2000 was forced to do live reports from the Redskins Park parking lot while peers filmed inside the practice facility. Knott’s employer, WJLA-TV, was the only local network affiliate that did not pay Snyder to become a “media partner” of the team.

    L

    Labor Laws: Something Snyder has had trouble with. In 2006, Snyder was sued by a former nanny, Juliette Mendonca, who told a Montgomery County court that when she pointed out she was being shortchanged and asked for proper recompense, Snyder screamed, “I pay you more than my Redskins Park people! I can’t afford to pay you like this!” The court ordered Snyder to pay Mendonca $44,880. In 2008, Snyder faced a lawsuit from a group of FedExField ticket office employees who weren’t being paid for extra hours. The team argued that the Redskins ticket office wasn’t covered by standard overtime laws, citing a 1932 exemption for “amusement and recreation employees” in the federal Fair Labor Standards Act. The exemption, however, was meant to cover lifeguards and greenskeepers, not office employees. Snyder settled the suit with the employees earlier this year. James Rubin, a Montgomery County attorney who represented the ticket sellers, says that he was shocked to learn during the case that Snyder now requires all employees to sign a document waiving their right to sue him “as a condition of employment.”

    Losing Record: What every head coach Snyder has hired since buying the team has posted. Only Norv Turner, who Snyder inherited as coach in 1999, put up a winning mark in the Snyder Era, going 17-12 in less than two seasons under the new owner.

    M

    Maryland Clean Indoor Air Act of 2007: Statewide ban on smoking in bars and restaurants. The law prompted regulators to order Club Macanudo, a cigar bar on FedExField’s Club Level, to either stop selling drinks and food or stop allowing smoking. Snyder stopped food and drink sales for one season. But the establishment reopened as the Montecristo Club in 2009, with the team explaining that the new facility was no longer a bar, but a tobacco shop, and therefore not required to comply with the state code. Unfortunately, a promo film for the tobacco shop posted on the Redskins website featured a bartender pouring a Bud Light from a tap, a clear violation of the law.

    Market Segments: How Snyder viewed cancer patients and diabetics during his marketing days. In a 2000 interview for a PBS show called CEO Exchange, Snyder told host Jeff Greenfield that his business depended on coming up with “$5 million niches” that he could sell goods and services to. Asked for examples of his methodology, Snyder said, “We were looking at trend lines. We saw that the aging baby boomer demographics were coming on strong. That meant there’s going to be a lot more diabetic patients, a lot more cancer patients, etc. How do we capture those market segments?”

    Mitchell, Brian: Redskins fan favorite and the NFL’s all-time leading kick returner. Mitchell was cut in 2000 to make room for Dallas Cowboys star Deion Sanders.

    “More than 200,000”: Number of names that Snyder claims are on the waiting list for Redskins season tickets. So why were the Redskins reduced to putting ads on the sides of Metrobuses this season?

    N

    Nepotism: Plague that has run rampant at Redskins Park since Snyder took over. Other than Jim Zorn, every head coach he’s hired has put family members on the payroll. Examples: Marty, Brian and Kurt Schottenheimer; Steve Spurrier senior and junior.; Joe and Coy Gibbs; Mike and Kyle Shanahan. Coordinators got in the mix, too: For the 2006-2007 seasons, Offensive Coordinator Al Saunders got son Bob a job, while Defensive Coordinator Gregg Williams brought in son Blake. Conversely, the team cut both punter Matt Turk and long snapper/brother Dan Turk after Dan made a bad snap on a field goal attempt in a 1999 playoff game.

    NFL’s Digital Media Committee: What Snyder was named to head in 2008, despite his bizarre refusal to install a hi-def screen for replays. For years, fans had mocked the video screens at FedExField as “MiniTrons” and “Lite Brites.” But Snyder spokesman Karl Swanson maintained that the team couldn’t give them what they wanted because FedExField “was wired for analog” and therefore couldn’t accommodate digital screens. In 2009, Paul McCartney and U2 both performed concerts at stadium, bringing their hi-def screens that somehow worked when plugged in. As of this year, FedExField has its own hi-def system.

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    Official Mattress of Six Flags: Anatomic Global. Over time, Snyder had shown his sponsorship mania by inking deals that gave Six Flags an official mayonnaise and the Redskins an official carpet installer. In June 2009, weeks after the theme park chain filed for bankruptcy, Snyder signed a deal for an official mattress. In the few months before his removal from the board, Snyder actually started selling the mattresses at his theme parks ($1,299 for a queen size).

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    Pentagon Flag Hat: A Redskins cap sold for profit by Snyder to “commemorate September 11” in time for the fifth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Ads boasted that the $23.99 caps, really just black Redskins hats with a red, white, and blue Pentagon sewn on the side, were “expected to be worn by the Redskins coaches.” No other NFL team put 9/11 commemorative products for sale during the 2006 season, for profit or otherwise. Snyder had previously added a $4 “security surcharge” to the ticket prices soon after the attacks. [Call this a personal gripe. My son joined the Army National Guard and met my daughter-in-law who had joined the Regular Army because each wanted to do something after September 11. Neither were in uniform to make money, although daughter-in-law got great pre-natal, birthing, and post-natal care at Darnall, the medical center at Ft. Hood. To repeat, neither joined to make a million or for various patches or pats on the back. That was a Snyder thing]

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    Redskins Extra Points MasterCard: The only credit card Snyder told fans he’d accept for season ticket payments for the 2005 season. He withdrew the demand following a threatened ticketholder revolt and after MasterCard told the Redskins to drop it.

    Redskins Unfiltered: Feature on Redskins.com designed to “offer fans an a la carte menu of information,” as Snyder told The New York Times in 2006. In practice, Unfiltered was mainly used to rebut everything written about the team by The Washington Post. Immediately after the Post ran a story that mentioned players eating “fast food” at Redskins Park, for example, Snyder staffer Larry Michael produced a long video in which team employees testified that Baja Fresh was NOT fast food. Unfiltered came back to haunt management when players used its video as evidence in a union grievance over “contact drills” during voluntary workouts. “You know how we caught them?” said NFLPA chief Gene Upshaw. “We saw it on their Web site.”

    “Ringing Endorsement”: What Denver Broncos owner Pat Bowlen gave ex-Broncos coach Mike Shanahan during private conversations with Snyder last year. Bowlen had fired Shanahan after the 2008 season with three years remaining on a massive contract. With Bowlen’s blessing, Snyder hired Shanahan, thereby taking Bowlen off the hook for about $7 million of the money that was still owed on his contract.

    Rodgers, Pepper: FedEx official whom Snyder almost made Redskins head coach. Snyder knew he wanted to fire Norv Turner in the middle of the 2000 season, but he didn’t have anybody to put in charge. So he contemplated Rodgers, 69, who had never coached in the NFL and whose last coaching stint was with the Memphis Mad Dogs of the CFL. Rodgers’ main qualification for the Redskins job was that, after FedEx became a Redskins sponsor, he watched games with Snyder in the owner’s box and told stories about coaching John Riggins at the University of Kansas.

    Robiskie, Terry: Early Snyder Yes Man. After taking over for Norv Turner as head coach in the middle of the 2000 season, Robiskie confessed he would play Jeff George over Brad Johnson just because that’s what the owner wanted. “Mr. Snyder owns the football team,” Robiskie declared after his first practice as head coach. “If I wanted to change my desk, I’m going to call him and say I want to change my desk. If I want to change quarterbacks, I’m going to call him and say, ‘What do you think of me changing quarterbacks?’ It’s his football team.”

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    Safety: Bogus excuse used to get a ban on pedestrian traffic into FedExField on game days in 2000. After a class action lawsuit alleged that the ban was really intended to increase parking revenues at the stadium, the ban was overturned. In 2007, Snyder again cited safety to get offsite parking banned by the town council in Agawam, Mass., home of Six Flags New England. Parking rates at the theme park tripled after his 2005 takeover of Six Flags. When the Agawam council learned about the earlier pedestrian-safety controversy at FedEx, it undid the ban.

    Sanders, Deion: Crown jewel of the fantasy football team Snyder put together during his first offseason as owner, which also included Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier, Jeff George and Adrian Murrell. Snyder signed Sanders to a seven-year, $56 million contract with an $8 million signing bonus. After a debacle of a 2000 season for the team and himself, Sanders refused to report to the Redskins in 2001—but declined to return any of his bonus money.

    “Several Million Dollars”: Amount Snyder was paid by StubHub as part of the Redskins’ 2008 deal with the online ticket clearinghouse, according to StubHub spokesman Sean Pate. At the time, Snyder had been taking tickets away from season ticketholders for violating team’s policy against reselling tickets. The Washington Times reported that the team even repossessed six tickets from the Braloves, a D.C. family that had had them “since the 1940s,” after Redskins detectives found that they’d put some tickets up for sale on eBay.

    Slamming: The illegal practice of switching a customer’s telephone service without authorization. Florida authorities fined Snyder’s pre-Redskins outfit, Snyder Communications, $3.1 million in 2001 after investigators uncovered more slamming in its offices than you’d find stagefront at a Limp Bizkit show.

    Smear Job: Action that Marvin Demoff, agent for Gregg Williams, accused Redskins of taking to pre-empt fan unhappiness over Snyder’s decision not to hire Williams. A four-year employee of Snyder’s, Williams was a fan favorite. But the owner reportedly wanted to hire veteran coach Jim Fassel instead. Demoff pointed out that three D.C. media operations reported at about the same time that “team sources” were saying Williams wasn’t fit to be head coach because he had been “disrespectful” to retiring coach Joe Gibbs. The alleged slight occurred when Williams unilaterally called the “Missing Man Formation” as a tribute to Sean Taylor after his death. Outcry prevented the team from hiring Fassel, though Williams didn’t get the job, either.

    Smith, Bruce, Rear End Of: The only thing fans who bought the first run of Snyder’s Dream Seats had a great look at. Before the 2000 season, Snyder installed 1,488 field level seats at FedExField. To that point in football history, the front rows were regarded as the worst vantage point in a stadium, since the players on the sideline block the view, and were priced accordingly. Snyder charged $3,000 per Dream Seat.

    Sponsored Sponsors: A technique created by the Redskins Broadcast Network in the Snyder era to cram in all the advertising sold on Redskins radio broadcasts. No segment of a Skins game goes unsponsored, leading to fabulous listening moments such as: “The GMRI scoreboard brought to you by McDonald’s.”

    “Sports Jerk of the Year”: Award conferred upon Snyder in 2001 in cartoon strip “Tank McNamara.”

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    Unobstructed View: What Snyder wanted of the Potomac River from the back of his Montgomery County home. To accomplish this, he cut down trees protected by the National Park Service. The episode marked one of the rare times Snyder got crisis PR help. He retained Mike Sitrick, who helped with damage control for the Michael Jackson family after the pop star’s death and Paris Hilton after one of her arrests.

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    Vanilla: Flavor of ice cream that Snyder left to thaw in defensive coordinator Mike Nolan’s office TWICE in one season to let the coach know the owner felt his schemes were simplistic, or vanilla. John Feinstein wrote that Snyder’s second delivery, after a loss to Dallas, consisted of “three giant canisters of melting 31 Flavors ice cream” and a note that said “I do not like vanilla.”

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    Weasel Stew: Menu item at the Princess Restaurant in Frostburg, Md., conceived in 2000 after the Redskins broke their training-camp lease with the local college. Jack Kent Cooke and Maryland lawmakers had worked out a 10-year, $331,000-per-year deal, designed to bring tourist dollars to western Maryland, as part of the agreement that brought the Redskins to Prince George’s County. Shortly after buying the team, Snyder defaulted on the deal so he could hold training camp at Redskins Park, where he charged $10 admission and $10 parking. In 2001, Snyder paid the school $750,000 to settle the matter. The school used the money to establish an endowment named for Cooke.

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    Zorn: Verb meaning to humiliate an employee into quitting so the employer can avoid paying severance. The word was brought into the lexicon early in the 2009 season, after Snyder engineered a public emasculation of head coach Jim Zorn. Zorn’s play-calling duties were handed to consultant Sherm Lewis, who was working as a bingo caller at retirement communities in Michigan when Snyder hired him. At the time, Zorn had a year and $2.4 million remaining on his contract. He didn’t quit.

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    Default Re: The cult of “anti racism” has fully taken over the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
    Good example of "whataboutthisism". Using your preferences, Gruden's emails should have been overlooked because other's emails have been overlooked? There are people who believe that judging is wrong because no one is perfect.

    There are two Greek words for judgement, if I remember. One is condemnation and one is an objective appraisal. Such an approach would appraise Gruden and Clinton indepently. Otherwise you have no basis and everyone would be reduced to doing what was right in their own mind. Can you appreciate what a place this would become if we all acted as you suggest?

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    Default Re: The cult of “anti racism” has fully taken over the NFL

    A meme points out hypocrisy.
    Chuck claims "whataboutism" (a red herring that deflects from the point and does not address whether or not there is hypocrisy).
    Chuck claims something about "two greek words", and begins with a latin based word (condemnation); with the second presumably somewhere in: "one is an objective appraisal..."

    I don't think you remember anything very well, Chuck.

    Can you imagine what a place this would become if we all acted as you do?

    Here are a couple more memes:

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    "A truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged."

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    Default Re: The cult of “anti racism” has fully taken over the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
    A meme points out hypocrisy.
    Hardly. Memes point out very little. They're passed around the internet like little "gotcha" jabs, and they masquerade as insight.

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    Default Re: The cult of “anti racism” has fully taken over the NFL

    @welch that dude went to a lot of effort to compile that encyclopedia of offenses!

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