The pivot begins...

[Empty_of_Clouds]

Then why not avoid all of this by simply answering the question?


Edit to add: fishing for levers to pull or buttons to push doesn't really work on me. You should already know this from past experience.

[724Seney]

I note, again, that you have made no attempt to answer the actual question.

Too bad.
Deal with it weasel. Your perseverating about this matter will not change a thing, so stop wasting your time. I'm done letting you waste mine.

[dneal]

Another page of not-responding. Congrats!

[Empty_of_Clouds]

perseverating

Is that a real word?

So, asked to honest about the motives for your conduct, you find that you are unable to be either honest or honourable and prefer to slink away. And this is after complaining that I've called you dishonest in the past.

And people say I am the hypocrite. C'mon!

[Empty_of_Clouds]

Another page of not-responding. Congrats!

Another pointless attempt at point scoring. Congrats!

[dneal]

Probably a good time to repost this for the lurkers and new members who my stumble in here:

Be aware that well-practiced manipulation techniques were just applied...again. I suggest not being taken in or feeling sorry.

This very same pattern has been exhibited over the years that have sought to shift responsibility, blame and even guilt for misbehavior onto other members as part of some kind of emotional neediness. Then there are these publicly declared departures to elicit sympathy - only to drift back into the forum again for a honeymoon period until the misbehavior begins anew. A search on member ID and the word "goodbye" will show just a sliver of the history and the grudges.

Like a close call with a con artist, learn the lesson what to watch out for and ignore, then move on to enjoy this community with the majority of its members and our pens!

It seems to apply to more than the threats to leave (how many times is it now?).

[Empty_of_Clouds]

Probably a good time to repost this for the lurkers and new members who my stumble in here:

Another deflection from the current discussion, and more pointless point scoring. Congrats!

Edit: just because you don't openly talk about point scoring or 'winning the internet' doesn't default to you NOT doing just that. It is apparent in your arguments, where most of your statements are directed at the poster and not the subject. You know this already though because you are far from stupid.

[dneal]

Deflection from the current discussion? My "current discussion" with you is your hypocrisy, duplicity, and deflection contained in your not-responses.

[724Seney]

perseverating

Is that a real word?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perseverate

SEE #2 ("Always happy to teach.")

Definition of perseverate
intransitive verb

1a: to recur or repeat continually
We call such tunes 'catchy'—and they are sometimes referred to as 'earworms,' for they may burrow into us, entrench themselves and then perseverate internally hundreds of times a day, only to evaporate, fade away, in a day or two …
— Oliver Sacks

1b: to intently focus one's attention on a thought or thoughts : FIXATE
Lest she be misinterpreted, Hard is not an old-timer perseverating on the good old days and bitter about not getting some of that big money.
— Bill Dwyre
According to a variety of medical Web sites and publications, people who never smoke, … who exercise and don't perseverate about past wrongs and future ills are happier and healthier and live longer.
— Brian McKenzie

2 Psychology : to have or display an involuntary repetitive behavior or thought : to exhibit perseveration
Any person … whose social skills have been severely deficient since very early childhood, who started to talk late or whose communicative use of language is inadequate, and who perseverates and lacks cognitive and behavioral flexibility meets the diagnostic criteria for an autistic-spectrum disorder.
— Isabelle Rapin

[Empty_of_Clouds]

Deflection from the current discussion? My "current discussion" with you is your hypocrisy, duplicity, and deflection contained in your not-responses.

My current discussion is Seney's unwillingness to answer a simple question honestly and directly. Your involvement revolves around trying to steer the discussion away from this point.

[dneal]

I'm actually getting a kick out of how many of my points he's adopting for his own. Deflecting is the most obvious, but the notions in 204 with "slink away" and "commented in the past" are damn near direct rip-offs.

FFS EoC, get your own material.

[Empty_of_Clouds]

perseverating

Is that a real word?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perseverate

SEE #2 ("Always happy to teach.")

Definition of perseverate
intransitive verb

1a: to recur or repeat continually
We call such tunes 'catchy'—and they are sometimes referred to as 'earworms,' for they may burrow into us, entrench themselves and then perseverate internally hundreds of times a day, only to evaporate, fade away, in a day or two …
— Oliver Sacks

1b: to intently focus one's attention on a thought or thoughts : FIXATE
Lest she be misinterpreted, Hard is not an old-timer perseverating on the good old days and bitter about not getting some of that big money.
— Bill Dwyre
According to a variety of medical Web sites and publications, people who never smoke, … who exercise and don't perseverate about past wrongs and future ills are happier and healthier and live longer.
— Brian McKenzie

2 Psychology : to have or display an involuntary repetitive behavior or thought : to exhibit perseveration
Any person … whose social skills have been severely deficient since very early childhood, who started to talk late or whose communicative use of language is inadequate, and who perseverates and lacks cognitive and behavioral flexibility meets the diagnostic criteria for an autistic-spectrum disorder.
— Isabelle Rapin

Well, I learned a new word today, thanks!

However, you used it as an insult, which is not unexpected. So add that to your deplorable conduct toward me. Do I hear an apology?

[Empty_of_Clouds]

I'm actually getting a kick out of how many of my points he's adopting for his own. Deflecting is the most obvious, but the notions in 204 with "slink away" and "commented in the past" are damn near direct rip-offs.

FFS EoC, get your own material.

Still nothing of substance on the subject of Seney's unwillingness to be forthright about his conduct. Plenty of deflection of course.

Edit: I am experimenting with being unoriginal. Taking my cue from you of course (that's a joke, in case you were wondering)

[dneal]

Deflection from the current discussion? My "current discussion" with you is your hypocrisy, duplicity, and deflection contained in your not-responses.

My current discussion is Seney's unwillingness to answer a simple question honestly and directly. Your involvement revolves around trying to steer the discussion away from this point.

I don't care about what your discussion with Seney is. I don't care if you think you are having a discussion with me.

I'm just pointing out your bullshit, because it's so ridiculous.

[dneal]

Are we going to get another page of not-responding?

[Empty_of_Clouds]

Care enough to keep commenting and insulting though. Fascinatin'

[Empty_of_Clouds]

Are we going to get another page of not-responding?

You got anything original?

[724Seney]

perseverating

Is that a real word?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perseverate

SEE #2 ("Always happy to teach.")

Definition of perseverate
intransitive verb

1a: to recur or repeat continually
We call such tunes 'catchy'—and they are sometimes referred to as 'earworms,' for they may burrow into us, entrench themselves and then perseverate internally hundreds of times a day, only to evaporate, fade away, in a day or two …
— Oliver Sacks

1b: to intently focus one's attention on a thought or thoughts : FIXATE
Lest she be misinterpreted, Hard is not an old-timer perseverating on the good old days and bitter about not getting some of that big money.
— Bill Dwyre
According to a variety of medical Web sites and publications, people who never smoke, … who exercise and don't perseverate about past wrongs and future ills are happier and healthier and live longer.
— Brian McKenzie

2 Psychology : to have or display an involuntary repetitive behavior or thought : to exhibit perseveration
Any person … whose social skills have been severely deficient since very early childhood, who started to talk late or whose communicative use of language is inadequate, and who perseverates and lacks cognitive and behavioral flexibility meets the diagnostic criteria for an autistic-spectrum disorder.
— Isabelle Rapin

Well, I learned a new word today, thanks!

However, you used it as an insult, which is not unexpected. So add that to your deplorable conduct toward me. Do I hear an apology?

I answered your inquiry about the word "perseverate" and provided you with the definition from the world's most highly respected dictionary of the English language.
If the definition insulted you, that's too bad. Your beef is with merriam-Webster, not me.

As the old saying goes, "If the shoe fits, wear it."

[Empty_of_Clouds]

My position remains zero tolerance for bullshit, which includes duplicity or disingenuousness; and I will respond to it as I like.

Such a good line, I am stealing it.

[dneal]

Are we going to get another page of not-responding?

You got anything original?

That one is kind of weak.

Nice to see you "rise above" all this sort of thing though. Be an example, right?