Can We have a Civil Discussion about Abortion?

[kazoolaw]

With all due respect, the question wasn't about your knowledge, or your position on abortion.
Words have meaning, and we've witnessed a battle for the control of language.
If there is no definition of "abortion" in the Act, does the Act prohibit restrictions on [post-birth] abortions?

[Chuck Naill]

With all due respect, the question wasn't about your knowledge, or your position on abortion.
Words have meaning, and we've witnessed a battle for the control of language.
If there is no definition of "abortion" in the Act, does the Act prohibit restrictions on [post-birth] abortions?

Post birth is settled.

Scott Peterson got 15 years for killing his unborn child.

The origins for Roe success was personhood. Potter asked about it. If the unborn was a persons, she had no argument.

Do you consider the unborn a child and why or why not?

[kazoolaw]

First, post-birth isn't settled: "Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D.) commented Wednesday about a controversial 40-week abortion bill and in so doing said the law allows an abortion to take place after the infant's birth.

"If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die."

Second, Justice Potter Stewart was a man.

Third, Scott Peterson's child was unborn. The legislation referred to above would making killing a child who has been born legal.

Fourth, if you read my earlier posts you'd know my answer to your final line: yes. The child is the person created at conception.

[Chuck Naill]

Northam explained that the law would allow Second Trimester abortions outside the hospital with a doctor present and if the mother's life was in danger. He accused Republicans of misrepresenting the law.

Yes, Justice Stewart was male.

Yes, as I said, Peterson's child was unborn.

I always try to read your post, Kaz.

[Chuck Naill]

The Supreme Court is a mess. McConnell is a fool. It is not a crime to leak.

[Chuck Naill]

I am for informed consent. Now I’m concerned about botched abortions.

Oral Birth control should be covered which would prevent the need for an abortion

[Bold2013]

How about abstinence instead of drugs and murder

[TSherbs]

How about abstinence instead of drugs and murder

Be fruitful and multiply. Abstain between the rutting, sure. Red tents for the bleeding time. The good old days.

[Lloyd]

How about abstinence instead of drugs and murder

Be fruitful and multiply. Abstain between the rutting, sure. Red tents for the bleeding time. The good old days.

Why not the Rhythm method of Coitus Interruptus? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I thought the choir boys were for rutting times...

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[Chuck Naill]

How about abstinence instead of drugs and murder

This goes back two weeks when I pointed out to you what Jesus said to the woman caught in adultery. Obviously a man was present if she was caught in the very act, but nothing was done to him nor was he identified. He didn't tell her to abstain from anything. He said go and sin no more, but ot to abstain, nor was he as naïve as you to think she could.

Abstain ace is a religious dogma and is not shared by even Evangelicals. Evangelicals bring their daughters to abortion clinics in droves. They say they know it is wrong, but do it anyway. Sexual activities among pastors has become common.

I assume ou prescribe medications for type 2 diabetes. Opt just for diet ad exercise from now on....LOL!!

[Bold2013]

He said go and sin no more. No more fornication and no more baby murdering (for “evangelicals” and everyone else).

[TSherbs]

He said go and sin no more. No more fornication and no more baby murdering (for “evangelicals” and everyone else).

Unmarried sex is not a sin. Never was, and still isn't now. This rule of "God" is a fiction.

[Chuck Naill]

We’ll see how that works for you Bold.

[Chuck Naill]

“The same mostly male politicians who oppose abortion so often do everything in their power to oppose rights to paid parental leave, subsidized child care, single-payer health care or any kind of social safety net that could improve family life.“

[Bold2013]

SC overturning Roe will save more lives than those masks and boosters ever did. Plus limit the federal government’s overreach!

[Chuck Naill]

In my state there are currently 6400 children in the system. 600 are awaiting patients to be identified.

Of those available, there are special needs including mental illness stemming form the parents substance abuse.

The cost to adopt is beteeen $38-43 K

If they could pass the background check, the Evangelical community could adopt these children. Maybe take up a love offering, lay on some hands, and sell the multi million dollar facilities.

Our family has adopted 4 children. I am pro life, but life for everyone including the parents.

I am concerned about those that survive birth only to be abused, abandoned, and killed later.

I wish adoption cost less.

[Chuck Naill]

This leak could be the Democrat’s best thing that’s ever happened.

[TSherbs]

This leak could be the Democrat’s best thing that’s ever happened.

Alito doesn't give a shit about precedent or cultural opinion. He's on the fringe, and he says so in this opinion on this topic. I don't see how the leak will do anything. But we'll see.

[Linger]

No sex before marriage, no masturbation, no same-sex sex, no condoms, no birth-control pills, no abortion, celibacy, etc.

And the solution to all related issues is abstinence.

Wow.

[dneal]

This leak could be the Democrat’s best thing that’s ever happened.

Alito doesn't give a shit about precedent or cultural opinion. He's on the fringe, and he says so in this opinion on this topic. I don't see how the leak will do anything. But we'll see.

Clearly someone hasn’t read the draft. I suppose it is easier to just toss unsubstantiated opinions. Less thinking required…