Laws related to abortive rights was the context. They are not going to change whether people do or don’t get an abortion. It will either make it easier or more difficult.
Rules of participation for insurance providers is different where regulations are required.
Two different topics.
Yeah, Ted has answered enough.
Right. But reciprocality helps a conversation and mutual understanding progress. This means that you were asking me questions that you yourself aren't willing to answer here. I don't mind because you were polite, but I don't quite get your motive. Maybe you were out to get me to change my mind. I dunno. But now I see that it wasn't to exchange points of view. I would not have attacked or challenged you in any way on it, but as you say, we are free not to discuss this publicly.
Have a good day. We're past the solstice, so days are getting longer. But still getting colder here in Maine. Yesterday topped out here at 11F!
TS-
If i missed a question you asked please repeat it or refer to the post you asked it in.
I'm not shy about responding. Nor am I concerned with attacks, and enjoy being challenged.
Ask away.
Saw this on the other FP site, "Have you noticed that all the people in favor of birth control are already born?” – Benny Hill
This applies to abortion as well, I suppose.
The history of infanticide does not mean our understanding of human rights must remain stagnant. In Sparta, sources say, the government would decide which babies would live and which would be left to die. In Rome the father had the choice to accept or reject the child, whether or not it was healthy. It was common in more recent times not to name a child until it was older because of the high rate of child mortality. We've moved beyond the caste system, and the view of people as chattel. As mores and medicine advance children are more readily understood to be people, not simply to be disposed of. [We can address the regression to the concept of "post-birth abortion" at another time.] Not everyone is so reluctant to extend the basic right to life to the unborn.
Not extending any rights to the embryo/fetus/child has created any number of thorny issues; it's too late to say that a "legal mess" militates against the extension of human rights. An embryo is without legal status: in a divorce action there are disputes over the who gets them. If the egg donor wants to keep them, have them implanted and carry them full term can she force the sperm donor, who did not want the embryo preserved, to pay child support? If she carries to term, and gives birth after remarrying the husband is deemed to be the father. Can the sperm donor reappear and claim visitation rights? Some legal thought is to address them a property in considering a division of property in a divorce? Is an embryo "property?" The egg donor doesn't want the embryo and, further, doesn't want the sperm donor to have the embryo implanted to grow to be a child. How does one weigh those competing interests? We already wrestle with the issues of injury and death to an unborn child, just as we weigh issues of injury and death to those in a coma. There is an entire legal specialty dealing with medical malpractice in neonatal care. Litigation around injuries involving lack of oxygen during labor due to constriction of the umbilical cord are not uncommon.
So happy our 27 week twins are alive and well. The boy is here today for virtual school.
Last edited by Chuck Naill; January 21st, 2022 at 03:01 PM.
I am reading about a Texas woman who performed a self-abortion or helped in an abortion this morning who is in jail with $500K bail.
The DA is dropping murder charges.
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
If you have read the Women’s Health Protection Act of 2021 were you able to find a definition of "abortion?"
I know what an abortion is, Kas
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